Literally just mainlining marketing material straight into whatever’s left of their rotting brains.

  • zeze@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    That's a lot of tangents and name calling.

    I was indicating that I thought it was absurd that you think my belief system is 'idealist' when I am talking about actual physical limitations of this system that will likely prevent it from ever achieving sentience,

    Then name what you think would limit sentience in machines, that humans are magically exempt from.

    You clearly have a view that something is different, but you just write walls of text avoiding any clear distinction, getting angry and calling me names.

    If you had any idea of what would "physically" stop silicon from doing what organic matter can do, you'd name it. And in every post you make, longer than the last, you fail to do that.

    Since you can't keep civil or answer a simple question, I'm going to peace out of this convo ✌️

    • Mindfury [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      That's a lot of tangents and name calling.

      oh cry harder you fucking dweeb jagoff

      • zeze@lemm.ee
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        7 months ago

        Can you name a single difference between the two?

        Using concrete materialist language, not vague terms or idealist woo.

        Failing over and over again to answer a simple, single question doesn't suddenly become badass because you acted like a juvenile throughout it.

        • Mindfury [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          throughout it.

          throughout what? I've replied to you exactly once.

          and I posted that reply to demonstrate to you and everyone else reading along that your civility fetishism means absolutely fucking nothing here. no is forced to answer you, and no one is required to reply to you with the tone or wording that you demand. shut the fuck up you idealist nerd.

          • zeze@lemm.ee
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            7 months ago

            throughout what? I've replied to you exactly once.

            First I addressed the behavior of the poster you defended.

            Second: Why do you think I emphasized the you in the last comment? Where I'm from it would imply your a different person I'm addressing now.

            With that sorted out: Anyone could, but no one can, because there's no reason for faith, so there's nothing to share. This community takes an idealist take, not a materialist one.

            I understand what you're saying. Civility doesn't matter because your ideals are solid, but you wouldn't waste the time on defending them. You would waste an equal amount of time writing out immature comments avoiding the point in question though. But that doesn't count, because your being ironic- whereas the coherent comment does count because that's got to take a lot of effort.

            It's a good excuse for idealists, because they don't look good when they take it seriously. Materialists tend to humor people with civility because they do convince anyone watching.

            • m532 [she/her]
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              7 months ago

              Materialists tend to humor people with civility because they do convince anyone watching.

              Wtf? Do you want to claim that materialists fall for scammers?

              • zeze@lemm.ee
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                7 months ago

                Is that how scams work?

                You state a belief, a tricky scammer asks you why you believe it, and if you fall for the trick and explain your reasoning then poof you lost money?

                • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                  7 months ago

                  I'm going to peace out of this convo ✌️

                  Still waiting for you to fuck off. Your proselytizing failed.

                  LLMs are not "AI."

                  "AI" is a marketing hype label that you have outright swallowed, shat out over a field of credulity, fertilized that field with that corporate hype shit, planted hype seeds, waited for those hype seeds to sprout and blossom, reaped those hype grains, ground those hype grains into hype flour, made a hype cake, baked that hype cake, put candles on it to celebrate the anniversary of ChatGPT's release, ate the entire cake, licked the tray clean, got an upset stomach from that, then stumbled over, squatted down, and shat it out again to write your most recent reply.

                  Nothing you are saying has any standing with actual relevant academia. You have bought into the hype to a comical degree and your techbro clown circus is redundant, if impressively long. How long are you going to juggle billionaire sales pitches and consider them actual respectable computer science?

                  How many times are you going to outright ignore links I've already posted over and over again stating that your position is derived from marketing and has no viable place in actual academia?

                  Also, your contrarian jerkoff contempt for humanity (and living beings in general) doesn't make you particularly logical or beyond emotional bias.

                  Also, take those leftist jargon words out of your mouth, especially "materialism;" you're parroting billionaire fever dreams and takes likely without the riches to back you up, effectively making you a temporarily-embarrassed bourgeoisie-style bootlicker without an actual understanding of the Marxist definition of the word.

                  I'll keep reposting this link until you or your favorite LLM treat printer digests it for you enough for you to understand.

                  https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1922/mar/12.htm

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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              7 months ago

              I'm going to peace out of this convo ✌️

              Still waiting for you to fuck off.

              LLMs are not "AI."

              "AI" is a marketing hype label that you have outright swallowed, shat out over a field of credulity, fertilized that field with that corporate hype shit, planted hype seeds, waited for those hype seeds to sprout and blossom, reaped those hype grains, ground those hype grains into hype flour, made a hype cake, baked that hype cake, put candles on it to celebrate the anniversary of ChatGPT's release, ate the entire cake, licked the tray clean, got an upset stomach from that, then stumbled over, squatted down, and shat it out again to write your most recent reply.

              Nothing you are saying has any standing with actual relevant academia. You have bought into the hype to a comical degree and your techbro clown circus is redundant, if impressively long. How long are you going to juggle billionaire sales pitches and consider them actual respectable computer science?

              How many times are you going to outright ignore links I've already posted over and over again stating that your position is derived from marketing and has no viable place in actual academia?

              Also, your contrarian jerkoff contempt for humanity (and living beings in general) doesn't make you particularly logical or beyond emotional bias.

              Also, take those leftist jargon words out of your mouth, especially "materialism;" you're parroting billionaire fever dreams and takes likely without the riches to back you up, effectively making you a temporarily-embarrassed bourgeoisie-style bootlicker without an actual understanding of the Marxist definition of the word.

              I'll keep reposting this link until you or your favorite LLM treat printer digests it for you enough for you to understand.

              https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1922/mar/12.htm

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          edit-2
          7 months ago

          I'm going to peace out of this convo ✌️

          Fucking liar. Like so much else you pretended was argued here, you continue to be a fucking liar.

          LLMs are not "AI."

          "AI" is a marketing hype label that you have outright swallowed, shat out over a field of credulity, fertilized that field with that corporate hype shit, planted hype seeds, waited for those hype seeds to sprout and blossom, reaped those hype grains, ground those hype grains into hype flour, made a hype cake, baked that hype cake, put candles on it to celebrate the anniversary of ChatGPT's release, ate the entire cake, licked the tray clean, got an upset stomach from that, then stumbled over, squatted down, and shat it out again to write your most recent reply.

          Nothing you are saying has any standing with actual relevant academia. You have bought into the hype to a comical degree and your techbro clown circus is redundant, if impressively long. How long are you going to juggle billionaire sales pitches and consider them actual respectable computer science?

          How many times are you going to outright ignore links I've already posted over and over again stating that your position is derived from marketing and has no viable place in actual academia?

          Also, your contrarian jerkoff contempt for humanity (and living beings in general) doesn't make you particularly logical or beyond emotional bias.

          Also, take those leftist jargon words out of your mouth, especially "materialism;" you're parroting billionaire fever dreams and takes likely without the riches to back you up, effectively making you a temporarily-embarrassed bourgeoisie-style bootlicker without an actual understanding of the Marxist definition of the word.

          I'll keep reposting this link until you or your favorite LLM treat printer digests it for you enough for you to understand.

          https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1922/mar/12.htm

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      edit-2
      7 months ago

      Fuck off you hypocritical crybully jerkoff.

      You keep imagining positions that no one here fucking took, such as the one where you pretended we said that artificial intelligence was impossible just because we're not heralding LLMs as "AI" unlike you buying into marketing bullshit, or your fantasy where you pretended that anyone here said that human beings with the power of love and friendship would always overcome machines in the same task.

      All of your positions are fantasies, both of your enemies and what you think LLM treat printers do.

      I'm going to peace out of this convo ✌️

      You won't for long, but you should. You should go back to Reddit's Tesla circlejerk subs and report your failure to LARP as a leftist to peddle Elon's products, then atone by buying another toy "flamethrower." jagoff

      LLMs are not "AI."

      "AI" is a marketing hype label that you have outright swallowed, shat out over a field of credulity, fertilized that field with that corporate hype shit, planted hype seeds, waited for those hype seeds to sprout and blossom, reaped those hype grains, ground those hype grains into hype flour, made a hype cake, baked that hype cake, put candles on it to celebrate the anniversary of ChatGPT's release, ate the entire cake, licked the tray clean, got an upset stomach from that, then stumbled over, squatted down, and shat it out again to write your most recent reply.

      Nothing you are saying has any standing with actual relevant academia. You have bought into the hype to a comical degree and your techbro clown circus is redundant, if impressively long. How long are you going to juggle billionaire sales pitches and consider them actual respectable computer science?

      How many times are you going to outright ignore links I've already posted over and over again stating that your position is derived from marketing and has no viable place in actual academia?

      Also, your contrarian jerkoff contempt for humanity (and living beings in general) doesn't make you particularly logical or beyond emotional bias.

      Also, take those leftist jargon words out of your mouth, especially "materialism;" you're parroting billionaire fever dreams and takes likely without the riches to back you up, effectively making you a temporarily-embarrassed bourgeoisie-style bootlicker without an actual understanding of the Marxist definition of the word.

      I'll keep reposting this link until you or your favorite LLM treat printer digests it for you enough for you to understand.

      https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1922/mar/12.htm