comments about how society just “has an acceptable level of death” that we just have to shrug our shoulders over and deal with!
It literally does though? Like, people didn't start dying because of covid. It's not the first disease. The issue with covid is that it is a very contagious and very deadly new disease. If it gets to the point where it is just something like the flu, then that's not good enough reason for everyone to lose their shit forever and ever. It is a good reason however to maybe not visit grandma if you aren't feeling so well, but idk about you, I was already doing that before. Now it's maybe not a good idea to start behaving just like before even if you are vaccinated yet, but maybe stop living in constant mortifying fear? For some reason doom is like a drug in communities like this and it's not the healthiest thing.
It literally does though? Like, people didn’t start dying because of covid. It’s not the first disease.
OP is saying that you don't actually have to put up with the prevailing wisdom of society's acceptance of death. This doesn't address that.
Now it’s maybe not a good idea to start behaving just like before even if you are vaccinated yet, but maybe stop living in constant mortifying fear?
The suggestion was to keep wearing a mask, the most minor of inconveniences, to do your own minor part in reducing the spread. This is honestly a chud-level straw man, the kind of shit I saw on Reddit from anti-maskers in May last year.
For some reason doom is like a drug in communities like this and it’s not the healthiest thing.
I remember you arguing that vaccine-resistant strains were so unlikely that we shouldn't entertain them as a danger of high and prolonged infection rates. Maybe adjust your idea of what interventions are appropriate on a "cost" vs. risk basis.
OP is saying that you don’t actually have to put up with the prevailing wisdom of society’s acceptance of death.
And do what? Just stop death? In general? The acceptance exists because diseases are inevitable. Covid in particular wasn't, but now it is what it is, and after a certain point it will either just go away completely or it will be some other virus that lurks around and functions kind of like a flu, at which point you just run with it.
The suggestion was to keep wearing a mask, the most minor of inconveniences, to do your own minor part in reducing the spread. This is honestly a chud-level straw man, the kind of shit I saw on Reddit from anti-maskers in May last year.
When someone feels they have to have a weird outburst and shout at everyone that you're definitely not doomjerking or whatever then it's definitely doesn't seem like a simple cool headed suggestion any more.
I remember you arguing that vaccine-resistant strains were so unlikely that we shouldn’t entertain them as a danger of high and prolonged infection rates
Totally vaccine resistant, yes. Which we haven't seen, still, even though I remember it was already the ones that existed by winter last year that were supposed to totally escape them. Neither do we see high infection rates in highly vaccinated countries any more, even though they have largely lifted restrictions, and even though pretty much no country has yet reached the predicted level of herd immunity in vaccinations. Although the ke It's the same thing every single time. People are straight up looking for reasons to panic. First it was that the mRNA vaccines would never be able to be distributed en masse. Then it would be that the capitalist west fucked up vaccines and we would all die from horrible side effects and it's like Tuskegee or something. Then it was the UK strain that would make vaccines useless. Next it was the Brazilian strain or the South Africa strain. Now apparently it is the delta variant which, yeah, it's definitely reason to worry because of how fast it spreads, but vaccines deal with it fine.
The big problem was and still is that poor countries don't get vaccines. Patents is the major issue. Panicking over someone who is vaccinated not wearing a mask or whatever is just misery fuel.
It literally does though? Like, people didn't start dying because of covid. It's not the first disease. The issue with covid is that it is a very contagious and very deadly new disease. If it gets to the point where it is just something like the flu, then that's not good enough reason for everyone to lose their shit forever and ever. It is a good reason however to maybe not visit grandma if you aren't feeling so well, but idk about you, I was already doing that before. Now it's maybe not a good idea to start behaving just like before even if you are vaccinated yet, but maybe stop living in constant mortifying fear? For some reason doom is like a drug in communities like this and it's not the healthiest thing.
OP is saying that you don't actually have to put up with the prevailing wisdom of society's acceptance of death. This doesn't address that.
The suggestion was to keep wearing a mask, the most minor of inconveniences, to do your own minor part in reducing the spread. This is honestly a chud-level straw man, the kind of shit I saw on Reddit from anti-maskers in May last year.
I remember you arguing that vaccine-resistant strains were so unlikely that we shouldn't entertain them as a danger of high and prolonged infection rates. Maybe adjust your idea of what interventions are appropriate on a "cost" vs. risk basis.
And do what? Just stop death? In general? The acceptance exists because diseases are inevitable. Covid in particular wasn't, but now it is what it is, and after a certain point it will either just go away completely or it will be some other virus that lurks around and functions kind of like a flu, at which point you just run with it.
When someone feels they have to have a weird outburst and shout at everyone that you're definitely not doomjerking or whatever then it's definitely doesn't seem like a simple cool headed suggestion any more.
Totally vaccine resistant, yes. Which we haven't seen, still, even though I remember it was already the ones that existed by winter last year that were supposed to totally escape them. Neither do we see high infection rates in highly vaccinated countries any more, even though they have largely lifted restrictions, and even though pretty much no country has yet reached the predicted level of herd immunity in vaccinations. Although the ke It's the same thing every single time. People are straight up looking for reasons to panic. First it was that the mRNA vaccines would never be able to be distributed en masse. Then it would be that the capitalist west fucked up vaccines and we would all die from horrible side effects and it's like Tuskegee or something. Then it was the UK strain that would make vaccines useless. Next it was the Brazilian strain or the South Africa strain. Now apparently it is the delta variant which, yeah, it's definitely reason to worry because of how fast it spreads, but vaccines deal with it fine.
The big problem was and still is that poor countries don't get vaccines. Patents is the major issue. Panicking over someone who is vaccinated not wearing a mask or whatever is just misery fuel.