Get in there and push back against China Bad propaganda.

/r/UrbanHell is one of the better places to push leftist messages on reddit. It's big (600,000+ subscribers) but most comment sections are manageable, and housing conditions/urban development is so fucked up in much of the U.S. that you can find a pleasant amount of support for public housing efforts, even in AES states. "These big scary AES states actually give a shit about their people" is also a great way to get people to question how scary leftism actually is.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Not sure what you mean but this is gorgeous. If you mean setting examples that people look at and say "That is better than anything we have" then yes, absolutely yes. It is precisely the kind of thing that might make people finally question whether the system they have is optimal and whether there is progress to be made.

    If what you mean are modteams that could be turned communist. Then yeah this is a susceptible team in my opinion. You just need a couple commies on it and in 6 months work you could flip it and turn it into a vessel for communist designed urban environments and against capitalist design.

    • MarxMadness [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      It is precisely the kind of thing that might make people finally question whether the system they have is optimal and whether there is progress to be made.

      Just a few comments from the top:

      Say what you will, but you'll never see the US government this committed to housing people.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Exactly.

        Now imagine 30 years from now when China actually has more resources per capita than the US and is actually investing that in something truly fucking incredible for the people.

        A socialist country with more resources than the current US will be a fucking beacon of humanity and there will be almost no stopping people from looking at it positively.

        This doesn't even get into what the Chinese movie industry and the Chinese videogame industry is going to do. Even Gamers will come onto China's side when their industry starts to churn out games they like year after year after year.

        • TeethOrCoat [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          A socialist country with more resources than the current US will be a fucking beacon of humanity and there will be almost no stopping people from looking at it positively.

          Look at the current situation now. The media has ensured that most of the things that westerners know about PRC is wrong. Even then, you think they'll come around?

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            Right now? No. In time? Yes I absolutely think people will question why China has everything better than everywhere else. Will the media still be a problem? Of course it will. But the intelligentsia will turn regardless of the media and when the intelligentsia turns you have a very serious problem.

            There are several core countries I think will flip or become deep sympathisers and allies. Spain, Italy, Greece, Ireland. The landscape will change greatly over the next few decades.

            • TeethOrCoat [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              There are several core countries I think will flip or become deep sympathisers and allies. Spain, Italy, Greece, Ireland.

              Basis for this? Are their academics generally better right now?

              • Awoo [she/her]
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                3 years ago

                Class consciousness is considerably higher in them, they all have lefts that are extremely entrenched and successful. The internal pressures within them are strong enough to at least prevent the right from doing their whole "let's unite against China" bit. This is a chunk of the reason that Europe is not marching in step with the US on the issue.

                The EU is under the strain of splitting. All of these countries have tearaway potential and the EU has to play the game in a way that does not upset their populations. It is in fact because the EU is not united and is currently so fragile that they can't form a clear front.

                • TeethOrCoat [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  Europe is generally marching in step with the US narrative on Xinjiang. The EU have sanctioned Chinese officials. They dumped 5G when the US came knocking. They suspended the CAI agreement.