:some-controversy:

  • ShareThatBread [he/him, comrade/them]
    ·
    edit-2
    3 years ago

    Look around your room and think not only of where everything in that room is made, but also where the individual components and the raw materials of those components are made, refined or processed. Now imagine China closing all of its sea, air and road ports the very moment war was declared against it.

    Honestly. Anyone who thinks an actual war would occur is insane and has no fundamental understanding of how interconnected our world is.

    • pooh [she/her, love/loves]
      ·
      3 years ago

      Anyone who thinks an actual war would occur is insane and has no fundamental understanding of how interconnected our world is.

      We also shouldn't underestimate how reckless and arrogant US leaders are, and how far they are willing to go to maintain their empire.

      • pluggd [they/them]
        ·
        3 years ago

        or underestimate the ability of Fox + testosterone addled boomer factions to get their hands on power.

    • happybadger [he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      I couldn't buy bullets last year because the lead was mined and primers manufactured in China.

      • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
        ·
        3 years ago

        Holy fucking shit lol does our military have some other hookup? Because it would be too fucking funny if we declared war and immediately lost our fucking ammo supplier.

        • gammison [none/use name]
          ·
          edit-2
          3 years ago

          It's a large amount. A alot of precursor chemicals are also refined in China then shipped to Europe. For example all US solid fuel rocket engines use Dechlorane, which is made by one company in Belgium, which gets all precursor chemicals from China. Most electronics in the military are also on Chinese made circuit boards. Final assembly of everything is usually in the US.

          But yeah, US empire can't function without Chinese manufacturing, and Chinese domestic life cannot continue without the customers, no one is really interested in rocking the boat too much. I mean take the Belt and Road Initiative, you know who is a huge supporter? Bill Gates lol.

        • happybadger [he/him]
          ·
          3 years ago

          The main contracted supplier for military ammo is a factory in Missouri called Lake City. I couldn't find anything on their supply chain's origins, but also couldn't find articles about them facing input shortages like civilian factories had. That might be domestic or at least non-Chinese.

        • sonartaxlaw [undecided,he/him]
          ·
          3 years ago

          It looks like most us lead consumption is domestic (https://prd-wret.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/assets/palladium/production/atoms/files/mis-202102-lead.pdf) but I don't know enough to say weather any of the materials required to mine that lead could be produced domestically.

    • WaterBear [they/them, comrade/them]
      ·
      3 years ago

      Anyone who thinks an actual war would occur is insane and has no fundamental understanding of how interconnected our world is.

      Is exactly what was said in 1914, though.

      Surely the conditions are different, but does it matter?