any thoughts on kubuntu vs mint? this thread has got me thinking i should give linux another shot after some very unsuccessful forays in the past, but the number of distros is kinda overwhelming
my focus is definitely on minimal ongoing hassle and avoiding command line shit wherever possible
i appreciate the response, and im not trying to call you out or anything or start a struggle session here, but i feel like its a real blind spot of the open source community in general to not realise just how much of an absolute dealbreaker command-line stuff is for so many people. i get for people in the it sector etc that a lot of it is second-nature, and im sure its a timesaver in a lot of instances, but i will take the worst piece-of-shit gui over the most elegant and intuitive command line 1000% of the time and i dont think im alone. im not super techy but i grew up on dos, ive tried debian and redhat in the past, ive recently had to muck around in shell in macos, and i fucking hate command line. if anything, in many ways a little bit of command line is worse than a lot of command line, because youre just parroting what some guide is telling you without the slightest idea of what youre actually doing
With KDE and Gnome being what they are now, you can basically avoid using the terminal in 2021. It might still be necessary for some more machine level stuff, but for general purpose you can do most things in a GUI now. AppImages work like exes on windows too so you don't even need to use your package manager, just use whatever the built in "store" is for your distro.
All of these things can be done on linux with no need for the command line whatsoever but you might have trouble with running multiplayer vidya that don't support linux natively unless they're one of these (there are other multiplayer games that also work)
If what you're saying were wrong we'd still be using ms-dos. It is astounding that many are still blind to it and how every single time someone says "you'll still need to use command line though" they are essentially writing down the dealbreaker for the vast majority of people.
I haven't tried mint myself and honestly I don't like the design... KDE's really good because it's more than just a desktop environment and it's a very active development and community so things are always improving. KDE's also what my parents are using so yeah I'd recommend Kubuntu, check this post if you go with it
Edit: and my parents don't know what a command line is
any thoughts on kubuntu vs mint? this thread has got me thinking i should give linux another shot after some very unsuccessful forays in the past, but the number of distros is kinda overwhelming
my focus is definitely on minimal ongoing hassle and avoiding command line shit wherever possible
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i appreciate the response, and im not trying to call you out or anything or start a struggle session here, but i feel like its a real blind spot of the open source community in general to not realise just how much of an absolute dealbreaker command-line stuff is for so many people. i get for people in the it sector etc that a lot of it is second-nature, and im sure its a timesaver in a lot of instances, but i will take the worst piece-of-shit gui over the most elegant and intuitive command line 1000% of the time and i dont think im alone. im not super techy but i grew up on dos, ive tried debian and redhat in the past, ive recently had to muck around in shell in macos, and i fucking hate command line. if anything, in many ways a little bit of command line is worse than a lot of command line, because youre just parroting what some guide is telling you without the slightest idea of what youre actually doing
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With KDE and Gnome being what they are now, you can basically avoid using the terminal in 2021. It might still be necessary for some more machine level stuff, but for general purpose you can do most things in a GUI now. AppImages work like exes on windows too so you don't even need to use your package manager, just use whatever the built in "store" is for your distro.
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What do you use your device for if you don't mind my asking
these days my home desktop is mostly web, piracy, videos, and vidya, nothing terribly fancy
i realise the vidya will likely mean keeping a windows partition anyway
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All of these things can be done on linux with no need for the command line whatsoever but you might have trouble with running multiplayer vidya that don't support linux natively unless they're one of these (there are other multiplayer games that also work)
If what you're saying were wrong we'd still be using ms-dos. It is astounding that many are still blind to it and how every single time someone says "you'll still need to use command line though" they are essentially writing down the dealbreaker for the vast majority of people.
I haven't tried mint myself and honestly I don't like the design... KDE's really good because it's more than just a desktop environment and it's a very active development and community so things are always improving. KDE's also what my parents are using so yeah I'd recommend Kubuntu, check this post if you go with it
Edit: and my parents don't know what a command line is
I'm gonna second trying out Ubuntu but also recommend removing snap and replacing it with flatpak at your leisure.