Pretty interesting. A lot of these points have become the norm for any discussion in leftist spheres. How do we combat this?

  • thrwasvwr24324 [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    I don't think this is the norm because of the CIA. I think it's the norm because the left has no real strategy or goals outside of making more and more nonprofits and piggybacking off the dems. Ideally either the few radical unions would co-opt the nonprofit left and try to turn it into something useful or you'd get more situations like FTV, where there are enough people who are uninterested in leftism as a culture or career that they demand action and are willing to pull funding and support if it doesn't happen.

    The left is very obviously infiltrated, but I don't think it is really defective. You had labor power collapse, the base of the left shift to the NGO sphere, and the NGO sphere increasingly turn into a career path for bougie college students. The result is a left that can only really act in terms of being the ones to try and influence those who might actually solve any given problem. The discourse accurately reflects that and looks like a church where the whole congregation is preachers from slightly different religions trying to gain new converts.

    And really what else could happen when the left pipeline isn't designed to take you to a radical union, a militant group or even a left political party, it's designed to get you into the volunteer pool and fundraising base of a nonprofit. You become a "real leftist" and get to join the social engineering market.

    • DetroitLolcat [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      FTV, where there are enough people who are uninterested in leftism as a culture or career that they demand action and are willing to pull funding and support if it doesn’t happen.

      FTV was a scam put on by like three podcasters who are looking out for nothing more than their careers and bank accounts. They are not people "demanding action and willing to pull funding", they're liars who deliberately refuse to learn politics so they can punch left at people who have done ten times the work they've done. The guy who came up with it literally campaigned against M4A in 2020.

      FTV is not "the people rising up and demanding action", it's a rejected episode of the West Wing.