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  • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    You're getting the relationship the text is stating backwards.

    Here's their thinking:

    The west was historically Christian and Christianity has a martyr narrative. Many people in the west, despite being secular, are still influenced by Christianity. Because of this, these people often associate a martyr narrative with being good.

    • kimilsungist [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      atheism in america, is a false mind paradigm that actually sucks you into the SAME good/pure evil/corrupt puritanical mindset.

      in reality, atheism should be "secular buddhism" imo. just talk to someone from eastern countries v western.

      yall are still being mind controlled by christianity if you dont understand the dualistic nature of our world.

      I heard this very useful parable: the wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: "theres actually zero difference between good & bad things. you imbecile. you fucking moron"

        • kimilsungist [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          what im trying to say is stop letting others tell you what to think WHICH MANIFESTS as GOOD vs EVIL. you will miss a lot if you think you are a "good" guy, and think you are supposed to avoid "bad" things. You cannot be good if you do not know what bad is. you cannot understand others, until you understand yourself. letting others put ideas in your head (like the idea that communism is bad, or that stalin was pure evil) is the actual BAD. Like YOOU KNOW that your intuition ALWAYS told you that communism, and the attempts were a progression of humanity, but for so long you denied yourself that information because stalin bad.

    • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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      3 years ago

      If A, then B.

      Observation: B. Therefore, A.

      That's what the logic of the text is saying.

      • MarxMadness [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        It's saying that Christianity has a prominent martyrdom narrative, Christianity is hegemonic in the west, so therefore western leftists view martyrdom positively. It's not saying that all martyrdom narratives are Christian.

        It's like saying that English uses pronouns, English is hegemonic in the U.S., so therefore U.S. leftists use pronouns. That doesn't imply the author thinks pronouns are an exclusive feature of the English language.

        • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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          3 years ago

          A vast majority of US leftists use English.

          Does a vast majority of western leftists adhere to Christianity? No. So your metaphor really breaks down there.