• Dingdangdog [he/him,comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      EU then , which is the same thing minus the US lol, either way if the US and China butt heads I do not think the US has the economic or military strength to be the one even capitalist ghouls go for at this point

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        I actually agree with you. The EU capitalists are leaning China, they want a cooperative relationship and see it as something that won't threaten them in the short-term. They aren't looking towards stopping socialism forever they're looking at whether it will hurt them in their lifetimes.

        If they won't be hurt in their lifetime, they don't care to oppose them especially if they're currently gaining a lot by cooperating.

        • Dingdangdog [he/him,comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          yeah I don't think I'm being optimistic about it. I'm just looking at the reality , China is just the horse to bet on at the moment. They provide more and are way the fuck less annoying to deal with than constantly running PR for the US making massive military and economic mistakes around the world.

          The only reason this isn't the case now is because the status quo hasn't been upset, but if the two collide i think that'd be the catalyst

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            My main worry here is that the EU capitalists are counting on a conflict between the US and China as the game changer. They want to siege up, play nice, prepare themselves and wait for a change in circumstances.

            The US might be used as a last ditch destructive bomb to wreck China while sacrificing the US just to beat back socialism again. They'll call it a tragedy that the US was taken over by fascism and caused such horrible nuclear war to happen but unavoidable, and let them do it.

            • Dingdangdog [he/him,comrade/them]
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              3 years ago

              Yeah I agree that is the other option. I'm speculating under the idea that nuclear war isn't even a potential option, as it'd absolutely demolish most wealth to consolidate.

              The fact that we're talking about the US potentially invading Cuba and nuclear apocalypses again is something to think about, and the fucking insane feeling that brings.

              • Awoo [she/her]
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                3 years ago

                This is going to happen everytime capitalism nears an endgame scenario where it might actually lose.

                Every capitalist country needs no-first-strike built into their constitution or laws if they have a nuclear arsenal. It would avoid this problem. Well, except for the scenario where there's a fascist in charge that will ignore said law.