It's been several weeks now since Virgil has been on his own show. Has he been cancelled or he is just he locked in the bathroom with IBS? Does anybody know?
It's been several weeks now since Virgil has been on his own show. Has he been cancelled or he is just he locked in the bathroom with IBS? Does anybody know?
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Don't forget, an inquisitive twitter user discovered that the sketchy account in question (the accuser's first follow/follower) was tied to the Gmail account "j***********g@g.com" or, if you fill in the blanks, "jenniferseberg@gmail.com"
I thought that seemed fairly damning. But like I've said before, Virgil's handling of this makes it harder to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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The dude literally vanishes from the face of the earth without any reason at all. You don't think a high profile, public accusation of sex crimes would be enough to trigger the same reaction? Whether it's a true or false accusation, it would be weirder if he did address it.
What do you mean that it would be weirder if he did address it?
Vanishing from the face of the earth is far and away not the usual playbook for a public figure faced with sexual misconduct allegations.
Exactly what I said?
Vanishing from the face of the earth is far and away not the usual playbook for anyone. But it is for Virgil Texas.
I think this place has been pretty level about it, and honestly I kinda agree with @SiskoDid2ThingsWrong 's semi-ironic comment in this thread.
Rape and sexual assault are truly insidious crimes due to the really personal nature that they tend to occur in making them difficult to prosecute (on both the legal and colloquial sense). False accusations of this sort are also quite insidious for related reasons (not to say false accusations are "worse" or even equal which is beside the point anyway). It does suck to feel like your good nature is being used against you and leaves reactionaries a wide window to (potentially) do things like this.
I don't really know what a reasonable solution is in the short term (someone please inform/remind me), but hopefully the complete abolition of patriarchy will make sexual assault something that doesn't occur at all under FALGSC.
I am personally unwilling to believe an anonymous victim.
When an actual victim comes forward publicly then I will consider, but literally anyone can write something and claim this or that online behind anonymity. I'm not believing accusations without a known victim that could eat shit in court if they're lying.
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Oh don't get me wrong, I don't trust court decisions either. Just that anonymous claims like this are purely aimed at online damage and harm, not at any actual justice. The victim isn't seeking any personal outcome in people finally being aware of their trauma because nobody knows who the victim is. It is pure damage.
If someone comes forward that can actually be identified then the whole situation changes. That person is seeking justice, personal vindication for what they've held quiet, etc etc. This one, if they ARE a victim, is still coming at it from the wrong place and it's only to do harm, and they are indistinguishable from someone faking to do harm which is especially sus.
I don't trust it. Never will. Give me a human being and I would change attitude completely but I can only reject this kind of thing because it's the only sensible thing to do.
Not paying attention to what some random completely anonymous twitter account which hasn't followed up with anything ever says is a good first step. Like, even if there is something to them, that's wayyyy beneath standards.
Yeah, it looks kinda bad for VT to just go radio silent in the short term, but it looks worse in the long term if there's never any follow up from the accuser (/"accuser") besides anonymous Twitter posts.
This shit is probably very stressful so I perfectly understand going silent. I really don't understand how anyone can pay attention to a completely anonymous twitter post, literally anyone can do this and it doesn't even sound very believable, it sounds like some kind of copypasta.
I've been hanging out in various other places online lately, and one of them has people who clearly came from communities like stupidpol, redscare, and cumtown -- subs like that. Based on the things that get said, I'm still trying to understand whether chapo.chat users are actually supposed to be identity politics shills or class reductionists... lol.
The mod grooming thing has been mentioned very recently actually. The evidence was a link to a post on r/trueanon, which was itself a crosspost to a post on r/redscare, which had a screenshot of an anonymous burner account making a public post with the accusation on chapo.chat.
I have no idea what really happened, IF anything at all, but I have never seen any convincing evidence personally
That whole thing ended up essentially going nowhere, a big public accusation was made against an admin/mod here, the mod stepped down and vowed to provide any information necessary to the mod team investigation, the investigation apparently found that every bit of evidence presented in the public accusation could have been attained from public posts from the moderator, so the mod team requested that the accuser contact them in private to supply more information.
The accuser did not do this and offered confusing explanations as to why they did not contact the mod team, continued making public posts insulting the mod team for not having gotten rid of the moderator and so on, when those were deleted the accuser claimed that the mod team were silencing victims and eventually went completely quiet. Thats the end of it, the accusation could realistically have been a kiwifarms op kind of deal and when questioned the accuser did not cooperate but instead just threw shit around and insulted people for not having given a guilty verdict yet.
Is beatnik back in admin now? At least under one of our mysterious admin names?
I don't know, I havent heard anything about that and I think in general speculating about it is sorta discouraged.
Yeah. To associate another user account with Beatnik would be in effect doxxing.
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that's what I was getting at lol (but perhaps too dryly), I've been hanging out here since like the second day the site went up
A little surprised we haven't seen the Cuba-Twitter stuff turn into a #MeToo thing.
Parade a bunch of women on TV and say "We were all raped in Cuba and that's why we left and so now you have to invade because if you don't then you're not a real feminist". Sort of like what they did with Iraq and the "Saddam murdered babies in their incubators" shit.
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it has been done before a few decades back. iirc in this interview former CIA John Stockwell mentions a disinfo campaign to convince Americans that the Cuban revolutionaries were gang raping but I'll have to watch again to remember the name of the incident they lied about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK1tfkESPVY