• Great_Leader_Is_Dead
    hexagon
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    7 months ago

    Guantanamo Bay doesn't have a civilian population.

    I'm opposed to any US involvement in this conflict but still think war is bad even if one of the country's involved is a US pawn.

    • duderium [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      How are we supposed to get rid of American imperialism without being violent? Should we rely on magic instead?

      • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
        hexagon
        ·
        7 months ago

        China's economy rising and forming ties with other developing nations is doing more overall damage than starting another hot war with a 3rd party allied with the US. I'm for pursing diplomatic and economic means of weakening the empire before resorting to wars that will inflict harm on civilian populations who didn't ask to be part of this game of geopolitical chess. The USSR fought American Imperialism but they didn't blunder into poorly planned armed conflicts and generally tried exhausting other means before getting the guns out.

        • Muad'Dibber@lemmygrad.ml
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          7 months ago

          poorly planned armed conflicts

          Are you dissapointed that the VZ government didn't consult with you first before taking action for their best interests?

          • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
            hexagon
            ·
            7 months ago

            I don't think VZ really has the military capacity to take on the US or even a force being backed by the US. They ain't Russia.

            • Muad'Dibber@lemmygrad.ml
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              7 months ago

              The US is involved in 2 major conflicts rn, Ukraine and Israel. But no, VZ should've consulted with you first.

              • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
                hexagon
                ·
                7 months ago

                Yeah you're right they really should have consulted Lemmygrad users instead.

                • Muad'Dibber@lemmygrad.ml
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                  7 months ago

                  Why on earth would we smugly criticize the actions of an anti-imperialist nation and victim of US imperialism like VZ, like you're doing right now?

                  • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
                    hexagon
                    ·
                    7 months ago

                    If I think it's a bad idea I say so, I'm just some asshole on the internet just like you, nobody consults us about anything before doing it. If you wanna make your case for why it's actually a great idea do so but you'll not be influencing anything besides maybe me.

        • duderium [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          Magic it is then. The US ruling class will start a hot war with China (while making sure to use the corporate media to blame China the entire time) long before it ever surrenders hegemony to the CPC.

          • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
            hexagon
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            edit-2
            7 months ago

            Alright have fun watching Caracas get burned to the ground when this goes tits up for Venezuela.

            Rescinding this comment cuz it was in poor taste and I was heated. Still think this conflict will likely go badly for Venezuela but I shouldn't make lite of it.

            • Outdoor_Catgirl [she/her, they/them]
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              7 months ago

              So you think palestine shouldnt have launched operation al-aqsa flood because gaza is currently being burned to the ground in retaliation? Fascists will do genocide anyway.

            • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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              7 months ago

              That's a fucked up response. We support AES. You're the one choosing to drop support at the first sight of something you don't like, and clearly without investigation, since you keep repeating "the US is not involved" and "theres no justification." Then you go straight to masking it with concern trolling.

              Serioulsy, take a fucking a break and rethink before you post shit like

              Alright have fun watching Caracas get burned to the ground when this goes tits up for Venezuela.

              again. Because thats straight up smuglord brained

              • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
                hexagon
                ·
                7 months ago

                "theres no justification."

                Never said that.

                "the US is not involved"

                Not directly yet, if they do get directly involved then I think Venezuela is screwed.

                We support AES.

                Yes and I think that includes me saying when I think an AES state is about to do something that's probably a very bad idea for them to do.

        • Tunnelvision [they/them]
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          7 months ago

          I don’t think that’s a fair comparison. China is doing things differently yes but they’re also on the complete other side of the world. Venezuela doesn’t have the ability to build its productive forces like China because of its proximity to the United States.