• Krause [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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      11 months ago

      Why does that matter? Should countries just lay down and let America strangle them "non-militarily/indirectly" until they're dead?

      • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
        hexagon
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        11 months ago

        Another reason I'm not happy about this is I'm not confident Venezuela can win this, if it gets embroiled in this conflict it could just as easily end up a win for the US Empire cuz now they can just snuff out Venezuela instead of trying to chip away at them via more subtle means. That's why, even if I don't agree with Maduro's decision here, I would still oppose US involvement of any kind.

        • Krause [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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          11 months ago

          I’m not confident Venezuela can win this

          Guyana has no military.

          it could just as easily end up a win for the US Empire

          So your alternative is to let them win because they might win if Venezuela reacts? Makes no sense.

        • porcupine@lemmygrad.ml
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          11 months ago

          this conflict it could just as easily end up a win for the US Empire cuz now they can just snuff out Venezuela instead of trying to chip away at them

          I'm not accusing you of this, but this is exactly the line of reasoning that every Trot and left liberal I know used to explain why we all needed to "condemn Hamas". The unstated assumption here is that confronting the empire can only result in a worse outcome for the periphery, and so we must oppose any material resistance by the periphery for their own good.

          The only two conclusions to this line of thinking are:

          • That there is no possibility of things improving for the periphery, and so the best they can hope for is to preserve the status quo indefinitely.
          • That the only effective means of improving the material conditions of the periphery is by waging some kind of purely moral nonviolent struggle through speech and symbolic gestures.

          Both of these are just liberalism.