• Dolores [love/loves]
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    1 year ago

    that John Brown achieved in a day

    what was that? a date with the hangman? Harper's Ferry is a terrible example for 'owning' pacifists.

    • Dr_Gabriel_Aby [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      I suggest you read William Lloyd Garrisons speeches in the months after the raid. He basically prays for a mass slavery insurrection because of what John Brown did. WEB Du Bois, Fredrick Douglas, James Baldwin, Malcom X, and countless others have writings that share the sentiment that the raid started the mass popularity of the anti slavery movement.

      • Dolores [love/loves]
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        1 year ago

        He basically prays for a mass slavery insurrection

        well that wasn't very pacifist of him! but seriously, most of those names still didn't take up arms, if their writings about Brown are significant, they were still not meaningless before/after that violent act of resistance. by rejecting the pacifists outright people throw the baby out with the bathwater--speeches and newspapers matter! we can get along with people who scold about killing and write good

        • Dr_Gabriel_Aby [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          Im never taking up arms either. In just not gonna equate this Esquibo conflict to American invasions of Iraq just because weapons are used.

          I am bothered that leftist are using no contexts to the conflicts they are judging. Capitalism does have to be fought back against.