the Anti-doomer crusade some people have been on since before the subreddit feels pretty alienating, ngl. Like, for real, feel free to disagree with any doomer, but it becomes a crusade when your reaction is to forbid doomers and shutdown doomer threads. I remember one especially delusional episode on the old subreddit when Bernie ate shit.
I feel some people are using Doomer to mean a defeatist who is telling everyone to give up and wallowing in pity, i.e., When really it's just having a prediction of the future that is worse than is popularly imagined, particularly involving climate change and political violence. Some people call this pessimism, but again, I'd appreciate if you didn't reduce a rational and justified perspective with a pathological tendency.
I'd like actually if someone could look up how many times is a Doomer being obnoxious and telling everyone to give up, vs a doomer just frankly discussing likely futures and the perspectives and priorities these entail, and getting told to shut up and be more optimistic. You can be a doomer and still be putting the work. I'm a full member of a ML party, I'm on the streets at actions, I've taken the China-pill, and I have a 4.00 GPA this semester with 19 hours of classes, I'm studying to be an Engineer with a Minor in Chinese so I can assist the scientific and social development of China, and I'd appreciate it if after all of that I can come on here and not get pathologized by people who think talking about Collapse is Bad Vibes.
In full self awareness: :jesse-wtf:
Just here to add that doomerism is about recognizing that all the available options as presented by the powers that be are woefully inadequate and will do less than nothing, if not outright worsen the conditions of the oncoming climate apocalypse. So called green new deals require an increase in production, which will result in a commensurate destruction of resources. Climate crisis is also an energy crisis, and in the face of this, carbon neutral energy production by means of nuclear are being shut down instead of upped proportionally, and no new cleaner techs are replacing them (thorium salts, etc). Renewables are great but unreliable, and often need technology that is not currently existing to implement (immense amounts of batteries for solar, etc). Doomerism recognizes these immense hurdles to cross, takes a realistic, material look at the current, real solutions on offer, realizes they're worth less than shit all, and concludes the entire system needs to be ripped out and replaced, and nothing short of full-blown, immediate global revolution will even begin to address the problems and solutions.
You and I both know how close we aren't to revolution. So what next?
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