the Anti-doomer crusade some people have been on since before the subreddit feels pretty alienating, ngl. Like, for real, feel free to disagree with any doomer, but it becomes a crusade when your reaction is to forbid doomers and shutdown doomer threads. I remember one especially delusional episode on the old subreddit when Bernie ate shit.

I feel some people are using Doomer to mean a defeatist who is telling everyone to give up and wallowing in pity, i.e., When really it's just having a prediction of the future that is worse than is popularly imagined, particularly involving climate change and political violence. Some people call this pessimism, but again, I'd appreciate if you didn't reduce a rational and justified perspective with a pathological tendency.

I'd like actually if someone could look up how many times is a Doomer being obnoxious and telling everyone to give up, vs a doomer just frankly discussing likely futures and the perspectives and priorities these entail, and getting told to shut up and be more optimistic. You can be a doomer and still be putting the work. I'm a full member of a ML party, I'm on the streets at actions, I've taken the China-pill, and I have a 4.00 GPA this semester with 19 hours of classes, I'm studying to be an Engineer with a Minor in Chinese so I can assist the scientific and social development of China, and I'd appreciate it if after all of that I can come on here and not get pathologized by people who think talking about Collapse is Bad Vibes.

In full self awareness: :jesse-wtf: