Digital technologies have helped capital to extend its grip ever deeper into our lives. But, leftist writer Evgeny Morozov tells Jacobin, the Left must also grasp these technologies’ potential benefits in building alternatives to neoliberalism.
I've read it now. It is kinda same to some other stuff i've seen elsewhere, about general orderbook for future production
Those reinventing capitalism types of guys break my fucking brain. Without material goods google and facebook revenue is zero, this side of surveillance/cia contracts. What good is big data if you can't sell ads, which you can only afford because frying pan costs 2 bucks to make in vietnam. Amazon/wallmart are very different in that sense, as they are kind of order collecting entity, only they can insert their own stuff in it
mhm, I like this idea. I don't know if he talks about this in that essay as its been a while since I read it, but the idea of an industrial wikipedia (in a post-IP world) also strikes me as a good idea. You may also like this essay I posted the other day: https://hexbear.net/post/1382796. I'd be curious what Morozov says about it.
Those reinventing capitalism types of guys break my fucking brain.
Yeah, same. I haven't read that one book he mentions at the start, but even the way some people on the left have lead themselves into some strange idea about data is wild. Between the Digital Socialism and the Critique of Neofeudal Reason essays, Morozov has pushed back against this better than anyone else.
I'm also very sympathetic, with only dreams that you get such plan automatically (my consumption doesn't change year over a year tbh, may be once in three year getting some gadget), but maybe im a weird zen monk in that sense.
I think its some religious shit people see google/facebook amount of money and knowledge like a big cathedral - its big therefore its true (???). Obviously they have tremendous infrastructure - actual real world data centers, but they are not marxistly speaking producing value.
I thought it was good. Worth the read
I've read it now. It is kinda same to some other stuff i've seen elsewhere, about general orderbook for future production
Those reinventing capitalism types of guys break my fucking brain. Without material goods google and facebook revenue is zero, this side of surveillance/cia contracts. What good is big data if you can't sell ads, which you can only afford because frying pan costs 2 bucks to make in vietnam. Amazon/wallmart are very different in that sense, as they are kind of order collecting entity, only they can insert their own stuff in it
mhm, I like this idea. I don't know if he talks about this in that essay as its been a while since I read it, but the idea of an industrial wikipedia (in a post-IP world) also strikes me as a good idea. You may also like this essay I posted the other day: https://hexbear.net/post/1382796. I'd be curious what Morozov says about it.
Yeah, same. I haven't read that one book he mentions at the start, but even the way some people on the left have lead themselves into some strange idea about data is wild. Between the Digital Socialism and the Critique of Neofeudal Reason essays, Morozov has pushed back against this better than anyone else.
I'm also very sympathetic, with only dreams that you get such plan automatically (my consumption doesn't change year over a year tbh, may be once in three year getting some gadget), but maybe im a weird zen monk in that sense.
I think its some religious shit people see google/facebook amount of money and knowledge like a big cathedral - its big therefore its true (???). Obviously they have tremendous infrastructure - actual real world data centers, but they are not marxistly speaking producing value.
I'll check it out later when im at work again.