I actually just started getting into hardcore, but I’m a little less enthusiastic about it when I started interacting with the scene and saw how dogshit the politics are in it. How is the community STILL having debates about whether conservatives can be punk? Shouldn’t that have been settled in the 80’s/90’s?
It's always the way, goes back to Dead Kennedys "nazi punks fuck off" and further.
I think aggressive music will attract aggressive people, and bigots sure are aggressive.
When the descendents put out a track celebrating Trump losing, all the comments were "keep politics out if your music" as if they hadn't always had political leanings in their work, and if punk/hardcore isn't one of the most politically charged genres.
I think the actual scene is a lot nicer. Go to a show and people are mostly on the level. Look at online discussions and you're more likely to find the people who fight in moshpits and get upset that women exist.
Keep at it! Lots of hardcore folk are sweethearts and I have met more good than bad from all areas of the hardcore spectrum!
idk when you saw it, but as of now the top comment thread is nonsense about how no one actually supports Hamas except the crazy tankies. someone called it a "holy war." redditors are dumber than
I actually just started getting into hardcore, but I’m a little less enthusiastic about it when I started interacting with the scene and saw how dogshit the politics are in it. How is the community STILL having debates about whether conservatives can be punk? Shouldn’t that have been settled in the 80’s/90’s?
It was. This isnt a debate that's had by non posers. Punks don't post on reddit
All the coolest crusties post on hexbear
At least three of em do!
If you weren't thinking of me in that number I am going to be disappointed in myself.
Ooh, sorry to tell ya there chief
It's always the way, goes back to Dead Kennedys "nazi punks fuck off" and further.
I think aggressive music will attract aggressive people, and bigots sure are aggressive.
When the descendents put out a track celebrating Trump losing, all the comments were "keep politics out if your music" as if they hadn't always had political leanings in their work, and if punk/hardcore isn't one of the most politically charged genres.
I think the actual scene is a lot nicer. Go to a show and people are mostly on the level. Look at online discussions and you're more likely to find the people who fight in moshpits and get upset that women exist.
Keep at it! Lots of hardcore folk are sweethearts and I have met more good than bad from all areas of the hardcore spectrum!
It's not really much of a debate, as you can see by this guy getting zero upvotes and 100+ comments calling him out on Reddit of all places.
idk when you saw it, but as of now the top comment thread is nonsense about how no one actually supports Hamas except the crazy tankies. someone called it a "holy war." redditors are dumber than
You want the DIY scene. It's adjacent to Hardcore, but also has black metal, country, pop punk, ska and folk punk, and has much better politics.