Reply: "The only atrocities the Afghani Muslims have committed is not sending you home in a pine box."
Zamn
I've witnessed the atrocious Muslims committed in person in Afghanistan
Staring through the scope of my .50 and shaking my head in disapproval so the rest of my brigade knows I don't like what I'm seeing
(Fighting on behalf of muslims in a country thats 99.7% muslim) Those evil muslims...
US marines were absolutely not fighting on behalf of muslims or anybody that lived in Afghanistan
I've witnessed the atrocious Muslims committed in person in Afghanistan
Even if I'm going to take this racist shit seriously, what does this have to do with Palestine you imperialist dog?
This idiot probably thinks Afghanistan is next door to Gaza
every yank who took part in afghanistan will say they "served in the middle east" despite the country... yknow, not being in the middle east. if you're going to invade a country on behalf of your empire i feel like you should at least know what part of the world it's in
Depends on who you're talking to, some consider it as part due to cultural similarities. The ambiguity of what is 'the middle east' is part of the racism towards the area according to some of the middle east history classes I've had
yeah and it's pretty culturally distinct, they just want to lump muslim countries together. it's as "middle eastern" as pakistan, turkmenistan, or uzbekistan. it's like saying austria is a balkan country
most yanks seem to think afghans and iranians are arab, too
After 9/11 the Bush admin coined "Greater Middle East" which was literally just every majority Muslim country more or less contiguous to the Middle East. Anything from Mauritania to Somalia to Azerbaijan to Kazakhstan. The former-most having a latitude west of Europe and the latter-most having a latitude going into India and China, being lumped with a geographic region that just means "near the east"
Who funded the atrocities by Muslims in Afghanistan?
you'll never guess
It was Americans and their fair weather ally Pakistan
his logic is literally "dude, why is my antiracist music scene not racist? don't they know this race is bad?"
"The atrocities Muslims commit in Afghanistan"
Bruh you were invading their country, stfu.
I don't mean to paint with a broad brush, but every marine that saw ground combat in Afghanistan is an unstable PTSD riddled psychopath.
I have yet to meet a marine veteran that isn't a severally fucked up person. We don't talk about how hard we fail on protecting our troop's mental health but we sure love waving flags and calling them heroes.
Eh they're psychos. Let's provide free mental health care to literally everyone else and then wen can work on the baby killers.
To be fair they deserve the mental health issues they suffer, it's likely to be the only justice their victims receive
Please provide evidence for your claim that not every marine that saw ground combat in Afghanistan is an unstable PTSD riddled psychopath.
Hey now... some of them were officers and NCO's working the desk at the supply shed...
not to go murder people
The job description is quite literally either to murder people, or support those who murder people. There are no military jobs that are without blood on their hands, directly or indirectly.
Even if someone signed up for money and benefits, they signed up for a job specifically about murder.
even in the words of military recruiters themselves, they'll say that every job, no matter what it is, is about "supporting the mission" (mission being murder, of course). and they're not wrong about that. every single soldier has red hands.
No you literally cannot support members of the military while not supporting the military.
And the whole "didnt see combat" line is total horseshit.
You know what the people who didn't see combat were doing? Signing off on reports that those 12 years olds were deffinitly enemy combatants and not civilians casualties and figuring out the logistics of how to get bullets from the factory into the heads of innocent farmers as quickly as possible.
Many people in the military are there for a job with good benefits, not to go murder people
Murdering people is one of the benefits
I didn't take a job at the torture factory because I like the suffering, I did it because I felt like I could take advantage of all the atrocities for personal gain
Just interactions with troops and vets would start with them apologizing for assisting the imperial war machine.
Oh the benefits were good? I didn't know they were benefiting from the murder they committed, carry on then
To steal natural resources and destabilize the global south... er, uh... I mean, for freedom!
For being
, the comments are excellent. Overwhelmingly just dunking on him being a racist dipshit.Some days I kinda wish I still had a reddit account to bully people
I get multiple reports for bullying by angry Vaushites lol
I actually just started getting into hardcore, but I’m a little less enthusiastic about it when I started interacting with the scene and saw how dogshit the politics are in it. How is the community STILL having debates about whether conservatives can be punk? Shouldn’t that have been settled in the 80’s/90’s?
It was. This isnt a debate that's had by non posers. Punks don't post on reddit
If you weren't thinking of me in that number I am going to be disappointed in myself.
It's always the way, goes back to Dead Kennedys "nazi punks fuck off" and further.
I think aggressive music will attract aggressive people, and bigots sure are aggressive.
When the descendents put out a track celebrating Trump losing, all the comments were "keep politics out if your music" as if they hadn't always had political leanings in their work, and if punk/hardcore isn't one of the most politically charged genres.
I think the actual scene is a lot nicer. Go to a show and people are mostly on the level. Look at online discussions and you're more likely to find the people who fight in moshpits and get upset that women exist.
Keep at it! Lots of hardcore folk are sweethearts and I have met more good than bad from all areas of the hardcore spectrum!
It's not really much of a debate, as you can see by this guy getting zero upvotes and 100+ comments calling him out on Reddit of all places.
idk when you saw it, but as of now the top comment thread is nonsense about how no one actually supports Hamas except the crazy tankies. someone called it a "holy war." redditors are dumber than
You want the DIY scene. It's adjacent to Hardcore, but also has black metal, country, pop punk, ska and folk punk, and has much better politics.
the modern hardcore scene is pretty cool. there was a bit of chuddery back in the late 90s to early 00s but those assholes left or got their asses kicked or became similar to the punk rock MBA guy
he loves boasting about being "friends with cops" and he came across as very libertarian when i was in his discord
i wouldn't say its free of chuddery now. it all depends on the shows you're seeing and how new the band is. newer hardcore shows are going to be dominated by pretty based people, but if you go to like a hatebreed show you're still going to see those same cargo-pant-sporting insecure middle aged chuds who target women in the pit.
Nazi punks:
welcome
tolerated
eunt domus
are kindly invited to leaveFUCK OFF
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hardcore/comments/18f6dwj/why_does_the_hardcore_crowd_support_palestine_fr/
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Reading that Reddit thread makes me hopeful because it means not all Redditors are completely lost. But many of the comments will probably be removed within a day.
This guy got owned so badly, lol.
Unfortunately there's definitely a bunch of "apolitical" chuds in hardcore as some of the most downvoted comments in that thread can show you.
