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    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      How is it a "materialist" take? People just throw these words around without meaning, at this point materialism is when you are conspiratorial.

      I mean, when you’re like “I’m a communist cia did coups and mkultra” you can’t whip around and reasonably say “trust the science”. Anyone listening will ask “hang on dude didn’t the same government that you can’t trust and want to replace do all those things?”

      See, this is exactly the thing I am talking about. "I just don't trust the government" or whatever is not a materialist take, it's just a garden variety conspiratorial take where you just believe that the government (which has direct and complete control over every aspect of the process apparently) and every associated body is just actively trying to mess with you at all steps, without any evidence, a good indication, or even a good motive as to why (did the government just randomly decide "know what we're gonna do? We're gonna give everyone in the country and especially the wealthier segments of society some kind of poison, because eh, why the hell not" and then somehow convince the entire medical community too?). And then they irresponsibly spread these takes which result in poor people who need the vaccines the most being wary of vaccines, and leaving them to the rich people who are apparently in charge of this scheme but also dumb enough to get vaccinated en masse, or something.

      Absolutely stuns me how this place can just flip flop from "vaccines should be mandatory and critics should be banned from media" to legit antivax talking points, or from saying "the first world hoards all the vaccines for themselves and doesn't care about poor countries" to "vaccines are being used on us to experiment"?