https://www.reddit.com/r/Shortages/

/r/collapse is very fertile ground for agitation, more so every year. This new subreddit, specific to the global supply chain collapses, is also a place where we can speak directly to the emotions people are feeling and the material conditions creating them. If it isn't full of socialists it will soon become full of libertarian preppers.

edit: I've also got no part in leadership there. It started popping up in crossposts yesterday.

  • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    r/collapse honestly makes me bloomer a lot of the time tbqh. you will REGULARLY see people say openly anti capitalist shit and point out the links between capitalism and climate collapse. you can see in real time people being radicalised by their material conditions

    • happybadger [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      I was a really early subscriber and right off the bat saw that it was the best place on the website to agitate. Agitating online is important because it's the modern equivalent of worker pubs. On there we can make an esoteric social argument that redditors reject outright because it's otherwise benignly reactionary. We can make an esoteric economic argument that is shut down by all the temporarily-embarrassed millionaires and cryptobros on the website. There usually isn't much penetration with either in most subreddits.

      In a place like r/collapse, everyone has a visceral connection to what's happening and an intuitive sense of what's coming/what caused it. That can just as easily be hijacked by eco-fascists with more convenient options where scared people get to do nothing. Hippies can hijack it like they did the rage of the 1960s, with eco-centric communes and incoherent utopias and empty hedonism. Liberals can manage it as a place of recuperation like they do Extinction Rebellion. When we're in there, it's easy to link dots and channel anger into something constructive or at least destructive toward the right thing. You can show the practical necessity of organisation because they know the future is being held hostage and that top-down solutions are the hopium of the masses. Even if people aren't won over there, the arguments you refine there are the ones you'll be making in any setting as things get worse.

      And because it's not overtly political it's less likely to get banned than consciously socialist subreddits.

    • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      I like your point, but it's still a shortcut to full on Doomer in my brain. I browse r/preppers sometimes as an antidote. The Chud infestation is greatly diminished since the pandemic started, and it makes me vaguely hopeful for the future.

      • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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        3 years ago

        a lot of the people on r/collapse do stare into the abyss and break down. but that's the first step, knowing within our current system change is impossible. a lot of people need that crisis of faith in liberalism to accept the need for radicalism. and you see that too, people who have come out of the other side of it knowing What Is To Be Done

    • RandyLahey [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      the second highest post there right now is a picture of uncle teds shack, which is...something

      • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Ted K is an eco fascist and a lot of people like him, it really sucks. like his ideas aren't even that good, it's just ooga booga turn to monke and also he hates black people on top of that

        • RandyLahey [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          yeah, although im gonna give the benefit of the doubt and assume that this is just a kind of lumpen awareness of "living off grid in the woods and waging war against society doesnt sound so bad, gonna make edgy memes about it" which is the sort of directionless baby leftism that can be turned to something more productive, rather than any deeper association with ted himself or his methods or manifesto (its not like anyone has ever read past the first line anyway)