Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/p4kcwi/we_cannot_stretch_anymore_hospital_leaders_on/
It's interesting to see r/medicine and some of the other medical subreddits start to radicalise against antivaxxers. Moral injury and secondary-exposure PTSD are already huge killers in the field. The normal moral context behind normal cases in an ER or ICU really does a number on staff, and now they've got a very strong ethical dilemma. Their sickest patients are either lemming terrorists who were fine with murdering everyone to disprove germ theory or they're the victims of those terrorists. While dying of a virus they don't believe in, those terrorists will still push their bullshit and expect sympathy from someone who has spent a year in a plague warzone watching people die.
The professional subreddits are slowly but surely beginning to turn hard against COVID deniers. Mods ban them if they post, commenters are more vocal about the situation and now understand "do no harm" with moral nuance similar to a medic's "do no harm, do know harm". As further variants and waves batter a wounded field full of wounded people who have already began striking against their hospitals, it's going to be a fascinating time to keep an eye on the medical community
Organ donation had me there years ago. The reason for keeping them when a patient is certainly dead anyway is logically on par with Egyptian pharaohs putting their hearts in jars alongside animal friends. Meanwhile liver, kidney, and heart failure are willingly allowing someone to suffer a torturous death over months if not years so that we can milk them for money. Blindness is facing near-total alienation and losing a face is otherwise also certain death, but they need those things in the afterlife. When it comes to public health measures the pandemic made me agnostic-positive toward China because the draconian Wuhan crackdown was the only response brave enough to save lives. The sacred individualist freedoms and democracy of the west only resulted in hundreds of thousands of people needlessly dying because someone doesn't understand what a vaccine is yet refuses to spend ten minutes learning. Those people are feral and we punish wildlife for less.
I’ve agreed with this for years, Organ donation should be mandatory. You shouldn’t have the right to condemn others to death by not donating.
I was also anti-china before Covid. I’m not that way anymore.
They know, they just don't care. Every adult in this country has had vaccines.
According to experts, the Wuhan lockdown was total overkill.
It's just that Western nations did nothing. Nothing whatsoever. A China-style lockdown wouldn't have even been necessary, but just like, anything would've probably done the job. Yet the governments refused because they never think further than the next fiscal quarter, their tried and tested technique of "lalalalala I can't heaaarr youuu" was applied and we saw how it went.
It's bizarre, honestly. It's insane just how little governments as well as individuals cared, and it's been really disillusioning for me. Can anyone be trusted to make any correct decisions anymore?
The Chinese government was still determining what kind of virus they were dealing with when they locked down. I think the steps they took were appropriate.
No one with a profit motive should be trusted to make decisions.
It was overkill, but it got results and at least as far as I can tell it didn't have the same shock doctrine effects that our half-measures did. They kept their outbreak to a few weeks and probably saved countless lives in such a large city before treatment protocols were known. It added a positive nuance to what's otherwise portrayed as wholly negative authoritarianism. The way they had state foresight to do it and did so at the expense of their economy was very morally socialist. Information suppression was a bad call that ended up hurting more people than it helped but I have to contrast that against the CDC telling me not to wear a mask to protect against a respiratory virus.