I figure it's even money between Gruesome Newsom and Chilldawg
Why would Biden ever step down?
Biden has gone further than any previous American president could ever have imagined.
The war in Ukraine has completely severed any chance of Europe forming a close alliance with Russia and China in the upcoming showdown between US and China. That’s a huge win for the neocons.
Europe is now spending huge proportion of their GDP to militarize, and that also means austerity and cutting welfare and social programs. That’s a huge win for the American military industrial complex and the private equity firms looking to cannibalize European public utilities and companies.
The US went from being a net oil importer to net exporter after the war started. American natural gas is now replacing Russian gas. That’s a huge win for the American fossil fuel industry.
Remember when Trump bragged about how well the stock market was doing under his presidency? Well, S&P500 is now 50% (!!) higher than the highest point during Trump’s era. The rich people are not just getting free money, they are SWIMMING in it. That’s a huge win for the American donor class.
Biden has achieved everything that Trump had promised the donor class but failed to deliver.
Why would the donor class ever want to replace Biden? Just because his polling is bad? You cannot be this naive and think that democracy is well and alive in the country? I can assure you that if they want to favor a certain outcome, it is going to happen.
I’m going to guess that over the next 11 months, there will be something such repulsive coming from the GOP platform that half of the “progressives” who swore never to vote for Biden, will end up defending Biden because “Trump is threatening to destroy our democracy”. The other half will keep the facade while secretly voting for Biden in the ballot box, because they are so afraid of what’s going to happen if Trump wins again.
All of that is true, but Biden’s approval is currently lower than Trump’s and Carter’s at the same points in their presidencies.
Honestly does that really matter? Like every president is unpopular in the social media age. Once the election is actually on the horizon the media will blitz us with Biden good, Orange man bad propaganda and the normies will fall in line.
Biden is also behind Trump in every swing state. It’s still mostly a coin toss as to who will win in 2024 but it’s not looking great for Biden.
I don't pay much heed to polls this far out. I think certain demos are pissed at Biden and saying this won't vote for him now, but as the election grows closer the media will report on more and more crazy shit Trump is saying and people will go back to vootin bluu noo mooter whoo.
Plus the demos he's polling terribly with tend to be the ones who don't show at the ballot box much, lib wine will still turn out for him.
But also, I think things are just going to keep getting worse for Biden for the rest of his presidency. Can you only polish a turd so much?
As much as it pains me to agree with the Libs, I think there are some signs that the economy is gradually getting better. Not by much but maybe enough that things will be tolerable. The housing market is still fucked and probably will be for a while, but it has been for a while and people seem just resigned to it. Inflation and gas prices are coming down, there's been some job and wage growth. Heck even with housing there has been some more building so we actually may see some minor improvement.
This plus the threat of Trump maybe enough for Biden to clinch it.
The only evidence I’ve seen that “the economy” is improving is that the stock market is up and TVs are cheap. Literally everything else is the same or worse.
That’s why I said:
Biden has gone further than any previous American president could ever have imagined.
Biden is surely breaking new grounds everywhere. I think we’re going to find out, if it hasn’t been made clear over the years, that the opinion of the 95% doesn’t matter at all.
The US went from being a net oil importer to net exporter after the war started.
pretty sure this already happened during the Obama administration
The US has always been a net importer until last year:
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But it’s true that the trend has been going for a while, just that the Ukraine war accelerated and pushed it across the boundary.
apparently I was remembering the stat for refined petroleum
In May 2011, the country became a net exporter of refined petroleum products.
I'm hoping for Biden not to get the hint, resulting in a very public backstabbing, leading to Hillary v Trump Round 2
If hillary stabbed Biden i would consider voting for her.
I wouldn't, but i would randomly smile sometimes, thinking about where i was when it happened
Imagine all of the ride or die Biden libs suddenly defending him getting dumpstered by the party, it would be so funny.
It would be pretty funny to listen to all of the "most progressive president ever" libs suddenly do an about face and explain how it's good actually that the robot known as
shot him in the head
It's going to be Biden vs Trump because Biden doesn't stand a chance against anyone but Trump and Trump doesn't stand a chance against anyone but Biden.
I love that in all the chatter I've heard about this
isn't even mentioned as a possibility. It's like they're pretending she doesn't exist. Very funny for the VP.Idk, obvious Kamala sucks I don’t like her for a lot of actual reasons. But she also doesn’t really do anything and isn’t really in the public eye very often. If she’s polling even worse than Dick fucking Cheney (by a huge margin), I have to think there’s got to be a lot of racism and sexism going on in that polling result.
Yeah absolutely. Its fun to pretend people dont like her for all the reasons we do but thats probably not it.
That means everything is going according to plan. She will come out and offer herself as the compromise candidate when the time is ripe.
Nobody because I don't think he'll step down. His ego is too big and he's been doing his job well for the people who really pull the strings. The bigger question is if he'll keep Kamala around or have her replaced by another token.
