In light of how Xi seems to be steering the country more left I'm left wondering how the fuck the old historical leaders were even real

like maybe it's because I live in the USA so everyone past a certain political station should be only be met with trueanon gun cock sound but it's genuinely incredible to me that anything positive about people like Chavez, Che, Allende, etc. or like Stalin or Mao could even be kinda true

It's cra-zee to me that one day some MF just woke up one day and was like: "I'm going to make this bitch right!" and went, got power, and didn't immediately turn into some self interested maniac and then went and unironically made like the entire formerly illiterate population literate, gave everyone jobs, killed all the Nazis instead of joining them and in general tried to make things not completely awful

I reminds me of an anecdote on r/communism where some guy in LatAm said he became a communist because of the stories his dad had of just being in the presence of Che where he said "he was like a superhero, but REAL"

It's like how

Maybe it's unbelievable because of my own cynicism but it's so incomprehensible to me that like....they existed. And that maybe they will again some day

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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    3 years ago

    i don't really believe we create communism by just putting the best people in charge, and even if the hagiographies of AES leaders are all true, we ought to abandon that fixation as revolutionaries

    • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Counterpoint: the west spends so much time spitting on these people to discredit the ideologies they're associated with, and defending them is therefore important.