y'know considering all the antivaxx and lolbertarian sentiment

  • TheBroodian [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Capital wants this over with.

    I don't think it's that simple, there are contending players in capital that are both, on the one hand, becoming ludicrously wealthy every day that covid persists, and on the other, being bankrupted.

    • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      True, although I think there's a firm majority that would rather things go back to business as usual. It's disrupted all businesses, but only some have figured out how to translate that to increased profits.

      • TheBroodian [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        I don't disagree with you, and I'm totally pulling thoughts out of thin air, but I do wonder who exactly the major contenders are. The desires of Amazon and Bezos probably steeply overwhelm the desires of an unknown number of other entire industries. Amazon and the pharma industry could conceivably be forces deeply invested in the continuity of the pandemic

        • BruceWillis [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          the major contenders are finance capital and the industries that it is invested in. amazon has reasons to want the pandemic to end, namely that supply chains are seeing major disruptions that are getting worse fast. for instance, they need trucks to deliver goods: most truck parts are made outside the US and cannot be obtained because of covid disruptions. just one example.

          i'd say it's probably 80% of capital that wants to end the pandemic through scientific and technological means, and 20% who want to go back to business as usual by ignoring it and letting people just die. capital always uses technology to solve it's crises, which always end up creating new crises.

          • LoudMuffin [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            A little birdy told me supply chains are a fucking disaster right now. As in, people getting sent the wrong shipments, WITH a delay. Getting expired goods, not getting delivieries etc.

            I heard rumors on the internet but I've seen it first hand now

          • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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            3 years ago

            The supply chain issues are bigger than Covid. There's supply chain issues because the combo of the pandemic and the massive stimulus payments meant that a lot of people retired early and a lot of mothers left the workforce.

            People still have that safety cushion of savings, and they've learned to spend less money on crap, so they aren't in a rush to get back to work. Even if Covid magically disappeared, they wouldn't just go find a job, especially the early retirees. It's only going to get worse because the big end of the Baby Boom is in their late 50s/early 60s right now.

        • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I could see that, but I could see an argument that those big players want this to end, too. They know how to dominate business as usual -- that's how they got so big in the first place. Disruption creates openings for new competition, which they don't want. Look at how many businesses stepped up delivery options by necessity during the pandemic. That's a new, direct challenge to Amazon's own delivery service.

          Then there's the fact that businesses that large have an interest in staying off the political radar (and keeping radical political change off the menu in general), and the pandemic fucking so many people over makes that harder.

          • s0ykaf [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Then there’s the fact that businesses that large have an interest in staying off the political radar (and keeping radical political change off the menu in general), and the pandemic fucking so many people over makes that harder.

            i think this is far more relevant, even for america there's a limit for the "safe" amount of anger that people can have before shit goes sideways

            • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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              3 years ago

              There is zero limit to how far shit can go in America. What action are people going to take? We had literal uprisings around the country last summer, and the result was more funding for cops 😂