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- cross-posted to:
- agitprop
- conspiracy@lemmy.ml
- movies
I know this video is almost 5 hours long, just skip the parts you find boring or unreasonable. There is plenty of truly shocking evidence presented in this thing.
i feel like it would have come out by now if it was true though.
But what would come out? If you ignore intelligence, or slow-walk your response to it, you don't need to produce documentation stating what you're doing. And at a high enough level there's always an excuse for inaction -- you have a million other things on your plate and can't be jumping at every scary story you're told.
well if nothing conclusive has ever come out, then i can't wholeheartedly believe in it, whether it is plausible or not.
Yeah, I'd agree that taking an advance knowledge theory as the gospel truth is unsupportable. But when you look at all the other wars we've lied our way into, stuff like that Project for a New American Century memo that talked about "a new Pearl Harbor" as a means of leading the country to war, and the way people at the top think about war, I'd say it easily clears the bar of plausibility. It might even be likely.
the parallels are pretty interesting.
A big conspiracy isn't necessary though. If Pearl Harbor didn't happen, then the US government would have declared war based on some random civilian ship getting sunk in some random submarine attack in the middle of nowhere just like they did for WWI. Any excuse would have done fine. The attack on Pearl Harbor just happened a bit before the US government got around to ginning up support for whatever other reason they might have picked a year or two later.
This isn't a big conspiracy, which is no small part of what makes it plausible. It's not faking the moon landing, which would require the consent and then silence of thousands of people spread all over the country. It could have been just FDR by himself, or at most a few high-ranking officials in the right places.
As for the scale of the attack itself, maybe they were hoping for something smaller. It's like the FBI winding up right-wing cranks and playing fast and loose with goading them on. Maybe the idea is to get them incriminated enough to make a big splashy arrest, but that goes sideways sometimes.