He's so, behind the times? I don't know how to describe it. His exit right before Trump won, sometime after the descent of the golden escalator was a natural stopping point. To bring him back feels like necromancy, something unholy and wrong, like Re-Animator or something.
He shot through a prism by retiring and got refracted into Oliver, Colbert, Fallon even, et fucking c. I'm not sure if another political comedy show would mean anything anymore.
And the tenor of the very broadly defined "left" in the US has shifted so much, too. If he just comes in as another centrist that just wants everyone to get along (like he was in the 00s) then he'd just get drowned out by other online personalities like Hasan or, hell, Chapo. Who would be his demo?? Anyone between 25 and 40 that watched his show but also haven't morphed into at least socdems? It's such a small slice of pie.
Absolutely. I actually am like one of three people in the world who liked 'Irresistable' but just the reaction and discourse surrounding it is a warning sign. I doubt he'll make a full heel turn like Bill Maher but just like Coblert we are so far beyond him and at this point he's shown himself to be so out of sync that its impossible for me to imagine him offering any real insight into the current political moment. I'd love to be wrong but this feels like its inevitably going to be going out with a whimper.
IDK if it's an unpopular opinion on here, Jon Stewart was head and shoulders above any other late night comedy/news personality of both his time and the modern time. Trevor Noah, Colbert, John Oliver, etc. haven't got shit on him
my take is hes better than them but its not really saying much bc they're awful. He's pretty :LIB: still tho
I think he's one of the only ones (minus maybe Trevor Noah) who's heart is at least in the right place. I think he honestly does care and want to make the world a better place, he's just maybe a bit out of touch with what that concretely means.
trevor did something or had a nuclear take that really annoyed the fucking shit out of me but i can't be bothered to remember what it was. idk political comedians are pretty universally awful to me personally lol
He cut a video of Bernie short to make it look like he called a child dumb, and then didn't even show the rest of the clip so it wasn't even a joke, it was literally a smear. He also laughed about South Africans getting shot while striking from their jobs.
He also laughed about South Africans getting shot while striking from their jobs.
that was it. honestly fuck him forever for that shit
Yeah, there's really no coming back from that. The guy is and always will be garbage.
I think basically everyone has some nuclear take that would annoy the shit out of me. I hate celebrity worship, but I also hate pointless celebrity hate. I read TN's book and it was really good.
It's ok to take inspiration from people, but having heroes is for children.
It's something I think is very relatable. We all looked up to someone who we found out was a garbage person. That doesn't negate the good they did, but hero worship elevates some real shitheads sometimes
I think Oliver's show is pretty good (China excepted, they're all bad on China), politics-wise, if not jokes-wise.
I also liked Hasan Minhaj's show before it got cancelled.
The more I see Oliver the more it becomes blatantly clear that his whole schtick is to employ progressive domestic politics as a Trojan horse for frothing at the mouth CIA propaganda when it comes to foreign affairs. And once he gets the audience going about something like abortion rights or gerrymandering, they keep on clapping like seals for the manufacturing consent portion of the program when he tells us "XYZ must go."
The guy is a mercenary. He knows exactly what hes doing. You say all of the right things about a subject people are familiar with, then they take at your word when you start talking about a country they've never even heard of.
I forgot about Hasan, I actually did like him. He felt the most in touch with my "age group". Definitely a slightly different vein from me, but it was kinda a trip seeing someone "my age" (he's 9 years older than me) doing a Late Night type show
Man Trevor Noah has been such a disappointment. I liked his standup specials, but maybe I was just a :LIB:. His show is just absolute shitlib all the time.
Jon Stewart was getting paid something like $40million a year. So that might be part of it too. Rich people like money. But yeah, I also think these people just don't know how to be happy, which actually says a lot about why the people that are rich do the deplorable things one must do in order to become rich.
Also farming and running an animal sanctuary - or whatever he was doing in upstate NY - is a lot more work than schlubbing it for TV.
He has enough money to just pay people to do that for him
Maybe he's doing the TV show so he can continue funding that project.
The CIA came to his vegetarian farm and threatened to kill his goats unless he got back into the liberal propaganda machine because millennials were starting to like China too much :xi-clap:
judging by the "movie" he tried to make this will be liberal diarrhea that hasn't been updated for twenty fucking years
At least they had the decency to put it on Apple Tv so no one would watch it.
I know, scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds, but I'm interested. Not only were his politics much better than most of his contemporaries or successors, his comedy was also much better. Plus, Stewart comes off as the kind of guy who won't double down on the kind of problematic humor that he used to use frequently, unlike Maher, who thinks that being told not to use the N word is equivalent to living in Nazi Germany.
his comedy was meh. he had good writers. when the writers strike happened his quality went way down hill. and he's a fuckin scab.
writers strike happened his quality went way down
That was the best week or whatever of late night TV I've ever seen. To hell with the saccharine, over produced shit the writers came up with. Watching Stewart try to just wing it was the shit, just a guy at a desk trying to make some sense of the growing absurdity of the world, or at least make fun of it.
Fire all the writers everywhere, actually
MAKE COMEDY REAL AGAIN
Honestly I don't give a shit about Stewart, it's not for me anymore; what I'm dreading is the entire Left podcast-adjacent everything being flooded with the same three boring dunks on him repeated ad nauseum
Did you attend? If not you really don't need to be embarrassed about it.
Source: attended
The show should be him saying "The problem is capitalism" and then 30 minutes of The Internationale and :amerikkka:
John McAfee is too busy snorting super cocaine and fucking prostitutes.
If you havent heard, he apparently committed suicide a few months ago. No idea if it's an epstein style "suicide" or actual one.
Dying hours after his extradition hearimg agreed to send him back to the States is super fishy.
He was wanted for murder in Belize but I guess ended up getting arrested in Spain and died in prison hours after his extradition hearing had agreed to ship him back to the States.
I didn't realize it either until I looked it up, I had just been listening to the Behind the Bastards episodes on him a few days ago.
Picturing a Venn diagram with "Tears In Heaven" on one side and "Cocaine" on the other and the overlap is John McAffee
Libs have been clamoring for his return for years. prepare for disappointment. He was one of the most progressive voices on mainstream tv then, but I can only expect to be disappointed.
