The :citations-needed: boys seem like good kids, but listening to them, they haven't completely eliminated their :LIB: :brainworms: .

One manifestation of this is that they seem to be deliberately avoiding a China episode, on the eve of a new cold war and in the middle of a propaganda storm. It appears that Adam has written many articles debunking anti-China stuff, so it doesn't look like it's bias. Please offer your speculation on why there's no episode of CN about it in the comments.

Anyone got any thoughts?

    • carbohydra [des/pair]
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      3 years ago

      I think right now there is way more (and more horrific) propaganda about China than the DPRK, so the stakes are higher. I'm still conflicted because the longer we wait the more entrenched the propaganda becomes, but there are better ways to gain people's trust than to stan an Evil Enemy country. Know your audience I guess.

      • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        I'm not asking for them to stan China, just to cover the incredibly obvious ways the media lies and misleads when covering them, as they did with the DPRK.

          • LeninWeave [none/use name]
            hexagon
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            3 years ago

            OK, then fuck 'em (edit: the libs, that is). If doing it for the DPRK and Iran hasn't scared people off, then neither will doing it for China. In fact, the longer they wait, the longer the cold war ramps up, the worse the reaction would be.

            • carbohydra [des/pair]
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              3 years ago

              In those cases, since the big stuff happened long ago, they have declassified CIA documents to refer to, right? Do such docs exist for China yet? (that can't conceivably be construed as biased)

              • LeninWeave [none/use name]
                hexagon
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                3 years ago

                You absolutely don't need declassified docs. You have the Chinese documents that the news bases their reports on, then the reports themselves. Just the differences in framing between the two are big enough to fill a whole episode.

                The Zenz thing alone could also fill an episode, and is well documented and proven. RFA, same thing - this one is even covered by declassified CIA documents.

            • carbohydra [des/pair]
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              3 years ago

              When you introduce someone to communism, you would never start by talking about Stalin. You work gradually from Che Guevara

                • carbohydra [des/pair]
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                  3 years ago

                  DPRK is a weird little hermit country that keeps its own population hostage, but nobody is really scared of it.

                  China is a global empire that has infiltrated the US and is keeping us hostage, so we are right to fear them.

                  China is much higher stakes. Fear is much stronger than some vague concern for human rights in a country they can't place on a map.