• mrbigcheese [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    if people want to understand land back they should look at the way it was implemented in Bolivia under Morales and in Nicaragua under Ortega

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=21YTQvzdCek

    • Yun [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The assertion being made in the OP screenshot though isn't that land reforms should not take place, but that they cannot take place now under capitalist rule. The examples you are giving were done only after socialists took power right?

        • Yun [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          "We do not live under communism and neither do indigenous people. this is simply creating a new place for the fundamental contradiction to occur"

          and then there's also the rest of the twitter thread where I think the point gets made pretty clearly.

          • mrbigcheese [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            ok Bolivians and Nicaraguans do not live under communism either, yet land back policies very clearly took place giving indigenous people this autonomy. land back is not privatization of public land, its just one very reasonable policy for socialists to support, this isnt complicated stuff!

            • Yun [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              it is pretty clear that "we do not live under communism" is just a figure of speech which in this context means "we live under capitalist rule".

            • coatimundi [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              I don't know about Bolivia, but it seems like what they did in Nicaragua according to that video you posted can't be what American progressives mean when they say land back though, since America already has autonomous regions for Indians just like Nicaragua. That's not even bringing up the fact that Miskito are a former British colony, are closer to Anglos and have a different culture from the Nicaraguans, meaning they need different schools that teach in English instead of Spanish and all sorts of other differentiated infrastructure that American Indians don't i.e. there's a different possible interpretation of "autonomous" more akin to China's autonomous regions.