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  • KermitTheFraud [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    You still put them in the same category. Is it counterproductive for a socialist to give money to mutual aid organizations?

    • sun [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah. I’m not talking about engaging in solidarity with others — that’s part and parcel of being a socialist — but mutual aid doesn’t aid in struggle, it just eases the conscience of those doing it and, if you’re lucky, makes suffering more bearable. Every dollar that’s spent in mutual aid is a dollar not spent on bail support or a strike fund. We need to be clear-minded about our priorities.

        • KermitTheFraud [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          Yeah, mutual aid groups regularly earmark money for bail/strike funds. And like you’ve implied here, building community, which is integral to all effective organizing, can’t be done with purely transactional arrangements.

      • KermitTheFraud [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        If you don’t consider strike funds to be a form of mutual aid, then we’re not talking about the same thing

        • sun [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          Yeah, I’ve never heard that called mutual aid. I’m talking about the anarchist concept

          • KermitTheFraud [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            There’s a lot of mutual aid that isn’t called that by name. But from personal experience, there are indeed mutual aid groups who work closely with local unions or focus on bail for protestors. There’s a lot of “gift economy” type stuff in some areas that would constitute mutual aid being done by people who aren’t even leftists