Not every job is literally a boots on the ground carrying a gun and patrolling the streets. There are plenty of medical, administrative, mechanical, computer, etc jobs that people join to do to get experience outside of normally going to college. Yeah paying the bills is exactly what it does for some people and it’s why they stay in. And I’ll argue my two soldiers from the Philippines and the other from Haiti were potentially in danger.
I’m an anti imperialist. Former troop. I understand my entire life is only as easy as it is to the extent that it is built off the backs of the global south. And that argument doesn’t just involve troops but Americans especially at large. They don’t see what happens in these countries where colonialism still holds and imperialism reigns. They just see coffee beans on a shelf or gas at the pump without thinking as to how it got there.
You don’t need to waste your breath on veterans or troops that could possibly be comrades. Just let them go on straight to the arms of reactionaries if there is no hope in educating them. That only makes the job of revolutionaries harder in the long run. I’ve personally talked to veterans in the VA who are interested in communism after I explain my views, even Vietnam veterans.
You didn’t become the perfect cut out of Lenin after reading a book or doing an emotionally driven critique of a veterans point of view on a social site. What should we realistically do with veterans then? Alienate them increasingly by refusing to do anything with them? P
that argument doesn’t just involve troops but Americans especially at large.
I think that’s part of the moralizing and grandstanding you’re running into here. Multiple people jumping onto soapboxes to try and absolve some of the guilt they feel.
We’re not on reddit and I think folks forget that sometimes. Of all the people here, I feel a former troop who has since seen the light probably has some of the clearest understanding for just how fucking evil American imperialism truly is at its core.
You would think so comrade. I’ve been around the world and I just try to use my experiences to help educate others. I try to bring veterans towards communism. I explain it’s because of my military experience that I became a communist. It’s not impossible.
It truly is not impossible. If anything, I’m surprised there aren’t more leftist veterans. Likely why there’s so much chud propaganda pointed at them, to be honest. You’ve seen how the sausage gets made.
You’re fighting a good fight. I think the shock for other leftist folks who deprogram themselves from American Jingoism can be harsh enough that anything which introduces further complexity can be met with strong resistance. Us leftists also love to soapbox, which doesn’t always help things.
I was almost snagged by a recruiter right out of high school. Those fuckers are relentless and they are predatory. I had some medical issues that disqualified me and at the time I was devastated. Now I realize I dodged a bullet.
You’re not viewing things from a materialist perspective if you are letting your emotions of a certain even cloud your judgement in the conditions that lead to someone to join.
What responsibility do they bear then if they did not know better at the time of enlisting?
And I’m not defending murdering foreigners for money so gtfo. No where have I been defending the slaughter of innocents.
Not every job is literally a boots on the ground carrying a gun and patrolling the streets. There are plenty of medical, administrative, mechanical, computer, etc jobs that people join to do to get experience outside of normally going to college. Yeah paying the bills is exactly what it does for some people and it’s why they stay in. And I’ll argue my two soldiers from the Philippines and the other from Haiti were potentially in danger.
I’m an anti imperialist. Former troop. I understand my entire life is only as easy as it is to the extent that it is built off the backs of the global south. And that argument doesn’t just involve troops but Americans especially at large. They don’t see what happens in these countries where colonialism still holds and imperialism reigns. They just see coffee beans on a shelf or gas at the pump without thinking as to how it got there.
You don’t need to waste your breath on veterans or troops that could possibly be comrades. Just let them go on straight to the arms of reactionaries if there is no hope in educating them. That only makes the job of revolutionaries harder in the long run. I’ve personally talked to veterans in the VA who are interested in communism after I explain my views, even Vietnam veterans.
You didn’t become the perfect cut out of Lenin after reading a book or doing an emotionally driven critique of a veterans point of view on a social site. What should we realistically do with veterans then? Alienate them increasingly by refusing to do anything with them? P
I think that’s part of the moralizing and grandstanding you’re running into here. Multiple people jumping onto soapboxes to try and absolve some of the guilt they feel.
We’re not on reddit and I think folks forget that sometimes. Of all the people here, I feel a former troop who has since seen the light probably has some of the clearest understanding for just how fucking evil American imperialism truly is at its core.
You would think so comrade. I’ve been around the world and I just try to use my experiences to help educate others. I try to bring veterans towards communism. I explain it’s because of my military experience that I became a communist. It’s not impossible.
It truly is not impossible. If anything, I’m surprised there aren’t more leftist veterans. Likely why there’s so much chud propaganda pointed at them, to be honest. You’ve seen how the sausage gets made.
You’re fighting a good fight. I think the shock for other leftist folks who deprogram themselves from American Jingoism can be harsh enough that anything which introduces further complexity can be met with strong resistance. Us leftists also love to soapbox, which doesn’t always help things.
I was almost snagged by a recruiter right out of high school. Those fuckers are relentless and they are predatory. I had some medical issues that disqualified me and at the time I was devastated. Now I realize I dodged a bullet.
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You’re not viewing things from a materialist perspective if you are letting your emotions of a certain even cloud your judgement in the conditions that lead to someone to join.
What responsibility do they bear then if they did not know better at the time of enlisting?
And I’m not defending murdering foreigners for money so gtfo. No where have I been defending the slaughter of innocents.