Still can't believe how good ARM chips have gotten over the past few years. My android phone has a GPU with the same raw power as an original Xbox one. This apple laptop has around a 9+ teraflop GPU.
It's just mind blowing. The prices are still indefensible though.
You are forgetting about the display. That's a pro video editing display. One of those by itself as a standalone unit goes for the same price as the laptop itself. A standalone display would also be bigger, but still when you consider you are getting a good laptop with it, it's a good deal.
Nope. Only the bottom of the barrel, absolutely cheapest crappiest ones are 16:9. 16:9 displays aren't actually wider than the same size 16:10 because of rounding. They are just shorter.
I don't see how the price is indefensible, the pricing is similar to other professional laptops like the Thinkpad P series. Laptops with an Intel Xeon are like 3k and go up to 5k
The macbook air is 3 times cheaper and does all the same things. This only makes sense to buy if you want to do those things (rending videos, compiling, whatever) faster which would only matter for a professional
Making the laptop hard to repair and upgrade with your own RAM and SSD is bad
It is difficult to compare these numbers across different architectures because how a "core" is defined. That Thinkpad laptop is x86, the Apple one is ARM. They are using different instruction sets and architectures
Based on the performance of the M1 chips in the Macbook air, the Apple chips could perform better than their competition.
I mean the M1 max GPU isn't wimpy by most standards (its got around the same performance as next gen game consoles), but yeah the one in the Lenovo is much more powerful.
the M1 GPU (specifically 16 core and 32 core ones, which don't translate 1:1 with CUDA cores or CPU cores) are actually not wimpy. The are vastly superior to Intel's integrated GPUs.
While it is true that you can buy a laptop with a superior dedicated Nvidia/AMD card, in terms of frames per second, they'll require a fan as loud as a jet engine to cool and still burn your legs, plus your battery life will be 20 minutes gaming.
That ThinkPad is more powerful than most standalone PC's lol. Even on the GPU front, a 27 tflop GPU. Absolutely ridiculous
I just don't see the point of consumer electronics that are so expensive. Yes, they offer amazing performance and features, but almost no one can buy them. I understand their use if you do video editing or something as a job, but damn it's expensive.
The Apple laptop there is like more than half a year of my salary/what I like off in the global south lol. The ThinkPad is even worse
Still can't believe how good ARM chips have gotten over the past few years. My android phone has a GPU with the same raw power as an original Xbox one. This apple laptop has around a 9+ teraflop GPU.
It's just mind blowing. The prices are still indefensible though.
You are forgetting about the display. That's a pro video editing display. One of those by itself as a standalone unit goes for the same price as the laptop itself. A standalone display would also be bigger, but still when you consider you are getting a good laptop with it, it's a good deal.
And they put a notch in their really expensive display for no good reason
:joker-troll:
Make really good laptop, great specs and battery life for most users.
Price it out of the range of 99% of people, put a notch in the ultra high tech display
Just Apple things™
Lmao. I mean, as long as the screen gets taller that isn't a big deal. But I kinda doubt it did.
it's 16:10 screen so it is taller than standard
16:10 is actually standard for laptops and professional displays. So you are losing space to the notch.
ah I thought laptops were still mostly 16:9
Nope. Only the bottom of the barrel, absolutely cheapest crappiest ones are 16:9. 16:9 displays aren't actually wider than the same size 16:10 because of rounding. They are just shorter.
my Acer Helios 300 from a few years ago is 16:9 but maybe that is because it is focused on gaming
Yeah, that's exactly right. There aren't a lot of high refresh rate displays other than 16:9 and ultrawides.
I don't see how the price is indefensible, the pricing is similar to other professional laptops like the Thinkpad P series. Laptops with an Intel Xeon are like 3k and go up to 5k
The macbook air is 3 times cheaper and does all the same things. This only makes sense to buy if you want to do those things (rending videos, compiling, whatever) faster which would only matter for a professional
Making the laptop hard to repair and upgrade with your own RAM and SSD is bad
At least that Thinkpad laptop has a GPU with 16 GB of memory and 6144 cores, instead of this wimpy integrated GPU.
It is difficult to compare these numbers across different architectures because how a "core" is defined. That Thinkpad laptop is x86, the Apple one is ARM. They are using different instruction sets and architectures
Based on the performance of the M1 chips in the Macbook air, the Apple chips could perform better than their competition.
Well the GPU isn't x86_64 or ARM64, it's just a separate proprietary thing, but yes. Probably not a 1-to-1 on the GPU threads.
I mean the M1 max GPU isn't wimpy by most standards (its got around the same performance as next gen game consoles), but yeah the one in the Lenovo is much more powerful.
the M1 GPU (specifically 16 core and 32 core ones, which don't translate 1:1 with CUDA cores or CPU cores) are actually not wimpy. The are vastly superior to Intel's integrated GPUs.
While it is true that you can buy a laptop with a superior dedicated Nvidia/AMD card, in terms of frames per second, they'll require a fan as loud as a jet engine to cool and still burn your legs, plus your battery life will be 20 minutes gaming.
That ThinkPad is more powerful than most standalone PC's lol. Even on the GPU front, a 27 tflop GPU. Absolutely ridiculous
I just don't see the point of consumer electronics that are so expensive. Yes, they offer amazing performance and features, but almost no one can buy them. I understand their use if you do video editing or something as a job, but damn it's expensive.
The Apple laptop there is like more than half a year of my salary/what I like off in the global south lol. The ThinkPad is even worse
They're not really consumer electronics. They don't offer any benefit to a normal consumer compared to a $1000 laptop.
Gaming hardware is much worse. People are buying GPUs for $2000 to play games at a slightly higher FPS