Hard mode, don't mention cars.

      • comi [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Depends on rural living arrangement I suppose with communal stuff, it doesn’t have to be this way. Just because small villages were supplanted by big boss having their slaves and/or hired workers living separately doesn’t mean the thing was wrong.

        also that seems mighty classist of rural people, don’t become haughty liberal for people feeding you.

        • deepcutsinsideme [she/her]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          Guess what class exists and rural people are above city people on the hierarchy, if we collectivise the farms rural people will cease to exist, urbanism won't.

          • steve5487 [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            how are we both uneducated cousin fucking hicks who live in our own filth and an exploitative powerful class

            • deepcutsinsideme [she/her]
              hexagon
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              3 years ago

              The farmers are the exploiting class, the rednecks and hillbillies live on their land. You honestly think those houses you see in the country side with the fields of corn and wheat and soy behind them are actually owned by the people in the house next to it? 9/10 times its land leased by a farmer and the people in the house are renters. Also farmers are rich dumb cousin fuckers bred by the government. The two statements are true.

          • comi [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            The fuck they will? Unless you have some unknown advancements in agriculture, people will still have to work there

            • DreamsOfDeadFutures [any]
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              3 years ago

              Clearly, we shall develop sufficiently advanced high speed public transit capable of commuting once we eliminate the scourge of ever being more than 10 feet away from another human being at any point in time by creating urban centers so dense that OP pales in comparison.

          • steve5487 [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            What are you talking about the soviet union had huge collective farm programs, the trade union movement developed heavily around agricultural workers

            • deepcutsinsideme [she/her]
              hexagon
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              3 years ago

              And you don't find farmers living in homesteads, they lived in the city and the fields were close by. They literally relocated them for efficiency.

              • comi [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                As someone who lived there, it was not cities, more like outgrowth of villages with maybe 300-500 people, local nurse, 1-2 shops and train station

                • deepcutsinsideme [she/her]
                  hexagon
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                  3 years ago

                  That's not rural, was there apartments of any kind? How far is the spread between buildings?

                  • comi [he/him]
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                    edit-2
                    3 years ago

                    No apartments, small houses in russian style, maybe 60-100 feet apart, with fields outside.

                    Such small villages usually had some small factory/farm, and young people (later than in cities though, like 10-12), would hop on train to bigger city for school, younger education was done by like 1 teacher, with generic education, like writing/reading/literature/math. (But our education structure is also very different, that’s basically all kids learn at first). Bigger villages have/had bigger schools, with more differentiated teachers and full education available, or at least generic one

                  • DreamsOfDeadFutures [any]
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                    3 years ago

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fujian_tulou

                    apartment style housing is in no way contradictory with rural living or farming. The Hakka people have been using packed earth techniques to construct ecologically sustainable communal housing divided into what could be considered apartments.