We could tear down the suburbs and grow it closer to the cities, and grow a lot less of it. First off ban meat consumption, second stop growing water intensive crops, third zone in urban farming to cities and then the countryside loses all value that it has.
get real. there's definitely a lot of improvement that could be done with modern industrial agriculture, there's no way we need to use as much land as we do or as inefficiently as it's used, but if you think we can grow the amount of food required by 8 billion people by growing it on ex-suburban land (which wouldn't even be suitable for agriculture, do you know what construction rubble does to soils?) then you're unserious.
like im sorry if a farmer was a dick to you this morning or something but your proposals are laughable. it's really not as simple as "ban meat consumption" "just don't grow water-intensive crops" have you ever actually spoken to someone who grows their own food? do you know how complicated and specific the circumstances required for that are? what crops, specifically, do you think the 8 billion people of planet earth could grow in such a manner without mass starvation? why should rural nomadic people living in, e.g., mongolia have to relocate to a dirty city just because some dumbass western leftist thinks they should? this would amount to an enormous cultural genocide of anyone who doesn't conform to a highly-urbanised lifestyle.
Asphalt is horrible for the environment, and the amount needed per person in a suburb is obscene.
I know, we all know suburbanism sucks but so does ruralism. Urbanism is the only acceptable form of human habitation.
where do you think food is going to come from in this 100% urbanised world
We could tear down the suburbs and grow it closer to the cities, and grow a lot less of it. First off ban meat consumption, second stop growing water intensive crops, third zone in urban farming to cities and then the countryside loses all value that it has.
this is ridiculous lmao no we could not
get real. there's definitely a lot of improvement that could be done with modern industrial agriculture, there's no way we need to use as much land as we do or as inefficiently as it's used, but if you think we can grow the amount of food required by 8 billion people by growing it on ex-suburban land (which wouldn't even be suitable for agriculture, do you know what construction rubble does to soils?) then you're unserious.
like im sorry if a farmer was a dick to you this morning or something but your proposals are laughable. it's really not as simple as "ban meat consumption" "just don't grow water-intensive crops" have you ever actually spoken to someone who grows their own food? do you know how complicated and specific the circumstances required for that are? what crops, specifically, do you think the 8 billion people of planet earth could grow in such a manner without mass starvation? why should rural nomadic people living in, e.g., mongolia have to relocate to a dirty city just because some dumbass western leftist thinks they should? this would amount to an enormous cultural genocide of anyone who doesn't conform to a highly-urbanised lifestyle.