:1984: ugh it doesn't do a whole lot but the devs said your police go plant bugs and stuff. i mean they are surprisingly pacifist otherwise, no arrests, you just blacklist reactionaries from important jobs (or those that aren't "loyal to the state"). it does take some of the pure socialist urban/nation planning away from an otherwise good game. not sure how historically accurate it is, but if bug planting and removal of responsibilities is as "police state stasi" as this gets i won't be too upset in the long run. beats murdering citizens in the streets for minor crimes

    • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      “My statement of opinion is actually a fact”

      Literally nothing in your entire reply actually responds to a single fucking thing I said. All you do is vaguely whine about ‘being interpreted unfavorably’ and ad hominem insults about not participating in good faith.

      Fuck you. Participating in good faith means not ignoring literally every single fucking word I say, asshole.

      Well sorry. Just because I didn’t repeat your own words back to you with exactly the same tone and emphasis does not mean you were interpreted dishonestly.

      There’s nothing more for me to say here because you completely checked out of the argument. You didn’t reply.

      Alright. I replied exactly as much as I intended to, because I'm already tired of this and I didn't want to get deeper into a debate. "American propaganda about East Germany includes many exaggerations and even falsehoods" is a fact. It's just true.

      I started typing a reply to the rest, but then realized it was pointless. Let's agree to disagree on the subject of the real Stasi not being as bad as the Stasi in the minds of Americans. Have a good day.

        • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          I'm honestly not sure what you mean. The specific example I originally used:

          They mostly did surveillance and put pressure on people (such as having student dissidents fail classes).

          And the perception Americans have of the Stasi, also from my first post:

          Certainly not the “run around oppressing and assassinating everyone” image people in the West seem to have built up of them.

          Clearly, one doesn't line up with the other. Of course the image people in the West have of the Stasi is exaggerated. You can call that a "truism" if you want, but it's literally the entire point of this thread of comments and you seem to even agree with it here.

          Whatever you think it is I'm arguing, I assure you I'm not.