:1984: ugh it doesn't do a whole lot but the devs said your police go plant bugs and stuff. i mean they are surprisingly pacifist otherwise, no arrests, you just blacklist reactionaries from important jobs (or those that aren't "loyal to the state"). it does take some of the pure socialist urban/nation planning away from an otherwise good game. not sure how historically accurate it is, but if bug planting and removal of responsibilities is as "police state stasi" as this gets i won't be too upset in the long run. beats murdering citizens in the streets for minor crimes

    • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      As far as I know, I replied to every comment. And I assure you that if I did that, it wasn't intentional. Again, please let me know the points I haven't addressed. It's totally possible I'm missing something here.

        • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          "The only people in the world who think college kids are adults are either cops or kids who are even younger."

          OK, I think this is what you're referring to? Yeah, I accidentally missed that line while reading the first time around, sorry about that.

          Thing is, college kids are factually adults (according to the definition of the word everyone uses), even though they might not all be fully mature. Beyond that, your example of "19 years old" is essentially the youngest age for college students, and I'm talking about political dissidents who I'd imagine are typically not in their first year.

          Regardless, I agree (and have said in other posts in this thread) that there were certainly overreaches. My sole point was that the Stasi were not nearly as violent as they are in the average Westerner's mind.

          Edit: this was meant to relate to the text in the OP, quoted below.

          not sure how historically accurate it is, but if bug planting and removal of responsibilities is as “police state stasi” as this gets i won’t be too upset in the long run. beats murdering citizens in the streets for minor crimes

        • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          I feel like I'm going crazy here. I'm going to read over the thread again to see for myself if I missed something.

            • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              See my other reply, quoted here.

              “The only people in the world who think college kids are adults are either cops or kids who are even younger.”

              OK, I think this is what you’re referring to? Yeah, I accidentally missed that line while reading the first time around, sorry about that.

              Thing is, college kids are factually adults (according to the definition of the word everyone uses), even though they might not all be fully mature. Beyond that, your example of “19 years old” is essentially the youngest age for college students, and I’m talking about political dissidents who I’d imagine are typically not in their first year.

              Regardless, I agree (and have said in other posts in this thread) that there were certainly overreaches. My sole point was that the Stasi were not nearly as violent as they are in the average Westerner’s mind.

              Edit: this was meant to relate to the text in the OP, quoted below.

              not sure how historically accurate it is, but if bug planting and removal of responsibilities is as “police state stasi” as this gets i won’t be too upset in the long run. beats murdering citizens in the streets for minor crimes