https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/07/world/americas/nicaragua-election-ortega.html
He imprisoned anyone who would run against him, which is in line with his recent change in behavior. Over the last few years he's implemented austerity measures, gunned down people who protested that, burn down rain-forests, dedicated giant expensive trees to his Wife, is disappearing and torturing descenters.
That's fucked, and if this is true, Ortega has to be trampled by a worker's revolution.
After the US empire has fallen.
Okay, user on hexbear.net, i'm going to believe you, because i have every reason to believe strangers on the internet.
Well, the other user hasn’t posted evidence from a non western source either
Yes. that's why i prefixed what i said with "if that's true."
Well, don’t believe what a gusano has to say. Support anti imperialist third world nations.
I support the nation, not people. Are you on his campaign team or what?
I’m saying that you shouldn’t fall in line behind any attacks on him. Anti-imperialism matters the most. American capitalism is infinitely worse than anything that Ortega has been alleged (without real proof mind you) of doing
You putting your doubts out there emboldens the CIA. Keep them to yourself.
if the CIA cared about this you'd see 100x more headlines and war hawks blowing up smoke
No, what did Biden say? If Biden said something I'll instantly forgo everything I know about the situation in Nicaragua and support mass murdering dictators just to contradict him.
Who would you trust to be the better man? A leader of a revolutionary communist group that overthrew an American-backed fascist leader, who has fought for communism, or the man who eulogized Strom Thurmond?
A leader of a revolutionary communist group
I believe you mean an opportunist that turned the country into his family property, colluded with neoliberal contras, invited in walmarts and pizza huts everywhere, and killed protestors who didn't like his austerity measures.
Hexbear upvoting "Neither Washington nor Beijing" lmao dogshit chauvinists
I’m not gonna trust a random person’s anecdote with absolutely no proof to back it up.
https://www.leftvoice.org/nicaragua-an-orchestrated-election-day-for-president-ortega/
While left voice is a reasonably good site, this particular author is pretty Sus. He’s opposed the Cuban Government on their stance against an obvious CIA astroturfed movement, and his first claim to fame is anti-Maduro propaganda. Not the best source, I saw you linked other articles to someone else so I’ll read those too
This is probably the best I can do:
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-11-05/daniel-ortega-nicaragua-election
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/04/nicaraguan-exiles-election-daniel-ortega-dictatorship-rosario-murillo
can't vouch for this subreddit, but maybe they can give better sources: https://www.reddit.com/r/frombelownicaragua/comments/qp0pj3/leftist_resources_on_nicaragua/
https://www.rt.com/news/539633-nicaragua-election-biden-ortega/
https://theconversation.com/nicaragua-former-revolutionary-daniel-ortega-now-resembles-the-dictator-he-helped-overthrow-171235
I've been wanting to do a more advanced research project on the subject for a long time now, but I haven't had the free time for it. Usually what happens is that US media sources parrot a single fact (a mostly true, unpolitical fact), with almost no information, some "tankie" types blindly defend Ortega because they remember that one time something happened in the 80s, then breitbart runs a virtue signal headline calling Ortega socialist, but basically zero socialists actually have anything to say about him on the English speaking internet, in regards to anything that's happened in the last 5 years.
But the simple truth is that Ortega implemented austerity measures in 2018, killed protestors over it, and things are kind of getting worse. Most people talking about "socialism" or "imperialism" or "color revolutions" are overpoliticizing Ortega just being a dictator and bad person.
garbage sources
"tankie"
"dictator"
"bad person"
Sound the Liberal alarm!
https://www.leftvoice.org/nicaragua-an-orchestrated-election-day-for-president-ortega/ this has a link to a Spanish translation at the bottom.
ARE THERE ELECTIONS FOR THE FASCISTS? DO THEY GET TO HAVE THEIR NEWSPAPERS?
Cry about it https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06MANAGUA2434_a.html
wow that wikileak from 2006 sure does refute the easily verified mass murders by Ortega in 2018.
It's ok to collaborate with the worst government to ever exist as long as it was a while ago!
Yeah I suspect this is a frequent struggle for you.
You seem to be asserting that the WikiLeaks document showing the "opposition" collaborating with the US government doesn't count because it's old.
Or maybe it's just not a refutation of things that happened 12 years later?
Working with the US government is inherently disqualifying forever.
Full and uncritical support for Daniel Ortega and the Nicaraguan people in their struggle against US imperialism
YOU.FUNDED.DEATH.SQUADS.IN.THEIR.COUNTRY
america must die. fuck this shit makes me so goddamn pissed even if I know to expect it. Just redacted the entire US media class
Why do you think 4chan. A community of psychopaths and ax-crazy minions loves America so much? Because it's evil. Just like them.
Ortega actually did the bad things, don't defend the guy who corrupted and abandoned the Sandanista movement.
if US media outlets are talking about him like this it's for one reason
Marxists understand that human political leadership in the imperial periphery, whether enlightened or tyrannical, will only be antagonized by empire for one single possible reason: it is getting in the way of market penetration. (source)
you can make wild claims about "gunning down protestors" all you want I've heard similar bullshit about every US official enemy and have no reason to credit yours
wild claims about “gunning down protestors”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/18/nicaragua-amnesty-international-police-killings-daniel-ortega
This is actually happening.
if US media outlets are talking about him like this it’s for one reason
if the US war machine or CIA topple machine gave a shit about Nicaragua, you'd see a shit ton more headlines. We've had mostly silence on the issue on the English speaking internet, compared to fake issues like Venezuela/Cuba/Iran/China.
your evidence is a Guardian article sole-sourced from a western NGO?
https://parstoday.com/en/radio/world-i99050-amnesty_international%E2%80%99s_troubling_collaboration_with_uk_us_intelligence
my spouse is a native Nicaraguan citizen who lived there during the shootings, yes
my spouse is a native citizen of Melmac and definitely not a bourgeois counterrevolutionary
Defending a mass murdered who sold out the sandanistas a long time ago? :cringe:
WaPo is writing hit pieces because they care deeply about the Nicaraguan people, I am an adult who consumes media critically!
what the fuck are you talking about, my spouse told me about the events in real time before any articles were published
ok your anecdote has convinced me, time for America to fund some Nicaraguan death squads by running drugs to US inner cities and selling weapons to Iran. maybe mine the harbor of Managua again? let's put your spouse in charge of the US marine invasion force
Love that they took a picture of a billboard where her face is disfigured. Very cool and not racist.
Ortega is a communist and this is blatant agitprop against a communist leader
:parenti-hands: don't make me tap the sign
https://youtube.com/shorts/wzlcM3TDr3o?feature=share
Feat video game clips for your ADHD
Furthermore. It's GOOD if Ortega crushes dissent. Why is it okay for fascists to do fascist shit but it's an outrage when they get a taste of their own medicine?
