He imprisoned anyone who would run against him, which is in line with his recent change in behavior. Over the last few years he's implemented austerity measures, gunned down people who protested that, burn down rain-forests, dedicated giant expensive trees to his Wife, is disappearing and torturing descenters.
I’m saying that you shouldn’t fall in line behind any attacks on him. Anti-imperialism matters the most. American capitalism is infinitely worse than anything that Ortega has been alleged (without real proof mind you) of doing
No, what did Biden say? If Biden said something I'll instantly forgo everything I know about the situation in Nicaragua and support mass murdering dictators just to contradict him.
Who would you trust to be the better man? A leader of a revolutionary communist group that overthrew an American-backed fascist leader, who has fought for communism, or the man who eulogized Strom Thurmond?
I believe you mean an opportunist that turned the country into his family property, colluded with neoliberal contras, invited in walmarts and pizza huts everywhere, and killed protestors who didn't like his austerity measures.
While left voice is a reasonably good site, this particular author is pretty Sus. He’s opposed the Cuban Government on their stance against an obvious CIA astroturfed movement, and his first claim to fame is anti-Maduro propaganda. Not the best source, I saw you linked other articles to someone else so I’ll read those too
can't vouch for this subreddit, but maybe they can give better sources: https://www.reddit.com/r/frombelownicaragua/comments/qp0pj3/leftist_resources_on_nicaragua/
I've been wanting to do a more advanced research project on the subject for a long time now, but I haven't had the free time for it. Usually what happens is that US media sources parrot a single fact (a mostly true, unpolitical fact), with almost no information, some "tankie" types blindly defend Ortega because they remember that one time something happened in the 80s, then breitbart runs a virtue signal headline calling Ortega socialist, but basically zero socialists actually have anything to say about him on the English speaking internet, in regards to anything that's happened in the last 5 years.
But the simple truth is that Ortega implemented austerity measures in 2018, killed protestors over it, and things are kind of getting worse. Most people talking about "socialism" or "imperialism" or "color revolutions" are overpoliticizing Ortega just being a dictator and bad person.
He imprisoned anyone who would run against him, which is in line with his recent change in behavior. Over the last few years he's implemented austerity measures, gunned down people who protested that, burn down rain-forests, dedicated giant expensive trees to his Wife, is disappearing and torturing descenters.
That's fucked, and if this is true, Ortega has to be trampled by a worker's revolution.
After the US empire has fallen.
It’s not true.
Okay, user on hexbear.net, i'm going to believe you, because i have every reason to believe strangers on the internet.
Well, the other user hasn’t posted evidence from a non western source either
Yes. that's why i prefixed what i said with "if that's true."
Well, don’t believe what a gusano has to say. Support anti imperialist third world nations.
"After the US empire has fallen."
You should support Ortega even if the US falls tomorrow
I support the nation, not people. Are you on his campaign team or what?
I’m saying that you shouldn’t fall in line behind any attacks on him. Anti-imperialism matters the most. American capitalism is infinitely worse than anything that Ortega has been alleged (without real proof mind you) of doing
I can do this all day.
You putting your doubts out there emboldens the CIA. Keep them to yourself.
if the CIA cared about this you'd see 100x more headlines and war hawks blowing up smoke
You will by the end of November.
been waiting since 2018
So you agree with what Biden said about him?
No, what did Biden say? If Biden said something I'll instantly forgo everything I know about the situation in Nicaragua and support mass murdering dictators just to contradict him.
Who would you trust to be the better man? A leader of a revolutionary communist group that overthrew an American-backed fascist leader, who has fought for communism, or the man who eulogized Strom Thurmond?
I believe you mean an opportunist that turned the country into his family property, colluded with neoliberal contras, invited in walmarts and pizza huts everywhere, and killed protestors who didn't like his austerity measures.
If he wasn’t good, why would people vote for him?
Hexbear upvoting "Neither Washington nor Beijing" lmao dogshit chauvinists
I support China, what are you on about?
It's called an analogy you fucking dullard.
Ah, okay, but it wasn't a good one. Now i get it.
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Liberal
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What the fuck would you know about real MLs
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I’m not gonna trust a random person’s anecdote with absolutely no proof to back it up.
https://www.leftvoice.org/nicaragua-an-orchestrated-election-day-for-president-ortega/
While left voice is a reasonably good site, this particular author is pretty Sus. He’s opposed the Cuban Government on their stance against an obvious CIA astroturfed movement, and his first claim to fame is anti-Maduro propaganda. Not the best source, I saw you linked other articles to someone else so I’ll read those too
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This is probably the best I can do:
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-11-05/daniel-ortega-nicaragua-election
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/04/nicaraguan-exiles-election-daniel-ortega-dictatorship-rosario-murillo
can't vouch for this subreddit, but maybe they can give better sources: https://www.reddit.com/r/frombelownicaragua/comments/qp0pj3/leftist_resources_on_nicaragua/
https://www.rt.com/news/539633-nicaragua-election-biden-ortega/
https://theconversation.com/nicaragua-former-revolutionary-daniel-ortega-now-resembles-the-dictator-he-helped-overthrow-171235
I've been wanting to do a more advanced research project on the subject for a long time now, but I haven't had the free time for it. Usually what happens is that US media sources parrot a single fact (a mostly true, unpolitical fact), with almost no information, some "tankie" types blindly defend Ortega because they remember that one time something happened in the 80s, then breitbart runs a virtue signal headline calling Ortega socialist, but basically zero socialists actually have anything to say about him on the English speaking internet, in regards to anything that's happened in the last 5 years.
But the simple truth is that Ortega implemented austerity measures in 2018, killed protestors over it, and things are kind of getting worse. Most people talking about "socialism" or "imperialism" or "color revolutions" are overpoliticizing Ortega just being a dictator and bad person.
Sound the Liberal alarm!
wow, how convincing!
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https://www.leftvoice.org/nicaragua-an-orchestrated-election-day-for-president-ortega/ this has a link to a Spanish translation at the bottom.
He didn't imprison anyone running for President.
Even if he did nothing wrong with that IMO
ARE THERE ELECTIONS FOR THE FASCISTS? DO THEY GET TO HAVE THEIR NEWSPAPERS?
There’s no such thing as a free election.
yeah he did, do literally any research at all
Cry about it https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06MANAGUA2434_a.html
wow that wikileak from 2006 sure does refute the easily verified mass murders by Ortega in 2018.
The party you're crying over supported the Fascist Bolivian coup.
what party?
Sandinista Renovation Movement
Gonna link to the Guardian again?
gonna link to a wikileak cable from 1980s?
It's ok to collaborate with the worst government to ever exist as long as it was a while ago!
literally have no idea what you're trying to communicate
Yeah I suspect this is a frequent struggle for you.
You seem to be asserting that the WikiLeaks document showing the "opposition" collaborating with the US government doesn't count because it's old.
Or maybe it's just not a refutation of things that happened 12 years later?
Working with the US government is inherently disqualifying forever.