• silent_water [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    forking subreddits in disagreement

    collective decision-making is impossible because every disagreement spawns a fork that endlessly divides the community. butterfly meme: is this leftism?

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      every disagreement spawns a fork

      But when you fork too often, engagement collapses. That's why so many of the political subs maintain a stable-state, rather than fracturing into roughly equitably sized /r/liberal and /r/neoliberal and /r/TrueNeoliberal and /r/TrueNeoliberal1984 and /r/BillClintonFanBois ad infinitum. Eventually, you need real humans to engage with the content or its not going to generate revenue.

      So you have a kind of... uh... dialectic. Fracturing and remerging, as individuals sort themselves in pursuit of a minimum sufficient degree of commonality. Large groups will also tend to set a social standard which naive new participants will adopt. So /r/politics can continue to maintain an active userbase as new users credulously consume the prevailing ideology. Meanwhile, /r/antiwork and /r/genzedong will become lightning rods of engagement for folks pushed out of conservative-leaning subs.

      If Reddit Admins keep nuking sites (or replacing the mods in a way that ostracizes too much of a given community) then these groups eventually form their own outside communities (like donald.win or hexbear.net) and continue to exist on the periphery.

      • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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        3 years ago

        But when you fork too often, engagement collapses. That’s why so many of the political subs maintain a stable-state, rather than fracturing into roughly equitably sized /r/liberal and /r/neoliberal and /r/TrueNeoliberal and /r/TrueNeoliberal1984 and /r/BillClintonFanBois ad infinitum. Eventually, you need real humans to engage with the content or its not going to generate revenue.

        This is a fascinating point.

        If Reddit Admins keep nuking sites (or replacing the mods in a way that ostracizes too much of a given community) then these groups eventually form their own outside communities (like donald.win or hexbear.net) and continue to exist on the periphery.

        All the major social media fiefs are extensions of the state. The state will inevitably try to smother subversive trends. The major platforms are doomed to fracture and the only limit is how much the state is willing to unplug the rest of the internet. When they finally do pull the plug though, there's always ham and pirate radio. No centralized cable and switching networks required.