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I don't think I have to explain why this doesn't represent the majority of anarchists but if you say it does you're just being insufferable on purpose

  • Helmic [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    How the fuck are you defining alien here? Antinatalism's not really that obscure, in a lot of ways it's been more prominent than a lot of the left for a while. I don't exactly subscribe to it, but it being less popular than the alternative does not mean it's alienating, very few people who aren't like ethnonationalists or whatever ideology that demands population growth are going to be outright appalled by antinatalism. It's about as "alienating" as fucking pineapple on pizza, it's not really comparable to saying infanticide is good actually regardless of context.

    • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Antinatalism’s not really that obscure

      Oh, it isn't? Go ask a farmer in Nigeria, a fisherman in Brazil, or a factory worker in Indonesia about the philosophical concept of antinatalism.

      You think they'd have any idea what you're talking about? You think they would give a shit?

            • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              I'm not saying they would be unable to comprehend it. Quite the opposite. I'm saying they would clearly understand it and then correctly brush it off as the western nonsense it is.

                • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  Looks a lot like the vast majority of influential antinatalist "philosophers" are from either western europe or north america.

                    • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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                      3 years ago

                      The vast majority of people on the planet wants children because that's just how people work. Even in the middle of famines and genocides people procreate. You are never going to change their minds by introducing them to some obscure doomlord anti-human "philosophy".

                      Antinatalism will never gain any real world relevance. And that's a good thing.

                      I'm honestly surprised that this shit is even allowed on a supposedly socialist website. How is the antinatalist argument"people should not have children" practically different from the eco-fascist argument "the population needs to be culled"?

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Something being alien and something being alienating are different things.