In the Spanish Republic, it's an undeniable fact that the Catholic church was targeted and subjected to a campaign of persecution. At certain points clergy were burnt alive inside their churches. Clergy were also simply executed. Skirting around the editorial commentary, this constitutes genocide in the formal definition
Absolute baby brained nonsense. Not reading any more after that absolute embarrassment of a statement. Nope. Fuck off.
Guys nooo, you can't target the fascists for violent reprisal, you have to let them murder you nooooo
So you're going to tell me that every member of the Catholic church in the Spanish Civil War was a fascist who was killing the people fighting on the side of the Spanish Republic?
I can give you examples of when Catholic clergy attacked people on the Republican side. Can you?
If you're going to accuse me of having a baby-brained take then give me your biggest brain take on why the Catalan Generalitat put in extensive effort to protect Catholic clergy.
Was the Generalitat defending fascism?
Have you got a better source on this than Lawrence Fernsworth which I haven't come across, one that disproves that the Generalitat protected the clergy?
How do you feel about the protection extended to the Franscan monks by basically all of the Republic? Why would everyone go defend fascists like that?
But try not to use too many sources because I've only got a little, tiny baby-brain so let's agree to keep it to just 3-4 or otherwise I won't be able to keep up with you and your big brain and all that history reading you must have been able to do with it.
Or you can take your own advice and just fuck right off.
I'm going to tell you that it isn't genocide to target an institution that is openly siding with a fascist regime trying to murder you, actually. The fact that people have a strong attachment towards a major cultural institution doesn't change that one iota. You are the one sitting on a massive burden of proof here that you absolutely do not engage with, instead doing the most obvious motte and bailey bullshit ever seen on the internet.
Yeah, tell me more about motte and bailey bullshit.
I have explained that it meets the definition of genocide.
Now you're saying that you don't think it's genocide but you've retreated from the point about it meeting the formal definition of genocide to a point that it doesn't meet your personal definition of genocide.
There's a term for that.
You've retreated from the point that killing clergy isn't genocide to the point that targeting an institution isn't genocide.
There's a term for that too.
The fact that people have a strong attachment towards a major cultural institution doesn't change that one iota.
Okay. Who is arguing that? How does this point change the fact that these actions meet the definition of genocide?
You are the one sitting on a massive burden of proof here
Is this your way of asking for a source?
You're doing your best imitation of a Redditor wringing your hands and using debatebro terms and being as edgy as possible, you ignore anything that I have said which is inconvenient to your argument, and you throw a whole bunch of stuff at me that you expect me to answer while you dodge any questions that I ask you.
If you can't find it in you to have an actual discussion then, as I said before, take your own advice and fuck right off.
There is no discussion to be had, you're wrong. You're not the target of dishonest argumentation, you're just arguing something stupid, badly.
I have not retreated from anything, I have called you an idiot and wrong, and I stand by that because you are.
Absolute baby brained nonsense. Not reading any more after that absolute embarrassment of a statement. Nope. Fuck off.
Guys nooo, you can't target the fascists for violent reprisal, you have to let them murder you nooooo
So you're going to tell me that every member of the Catholic church in the Spanish Civil War was a fascist who was killing the people fighting on the side of the Spanish Republic?
I can give you examples of when Catholic clergy attacked people on the Republican side. Can you?
If you're going to accuse me of having a baby-brained take then give me your biggest brain take on why the Catalan Generalitat put in extensive effort to protect Catholic clergy.
Was the Generalitat defending fascism?
Have you got a better source on this than Lawrence Fernsworth which I haven't come across, one that disproves that the Generalitat protected the clergy?
How do you feel about the protection extended to the Franscan monks by basically all of the Republic? Why would everyone go defend fascists like that?
But try not to use too many sources because I've only got a little, tiny baby-brain so let's agree to keep it to just 3-4 or otherwise I won't be able to keep up with you and your big brain and all that history reading you must have been able to do with it.
Or you can take your own advice and just fuck right off.
I'm going to tell you that it isn't genocide to target an institution that is openly siding with a fascist regime trying to murder you, actually. The fact that people have a strong attachment towards a major cultural institution doesn't change that one iota. You are the one sitting on a massive burden of proof here that you absolutely do not engage with, instead doing the most obvious motte and bailey bullshit ever seen on the internet.
Yeah, tell me more about motte and bailey bullshit.
I have explained that it meets the definition of genocide.
Now you're saying that you don't think it's genocide but you've retreated from the point about it meeting the formal definition of genocide to a point that it doesn't meet your personal definition of genocide.
There's a term for that.
You've retreated from the point that killing clergy isn't genocide to the point that targeting an institution isn't genocide.
There's a term for that too.
Okay. Who is arguing that? How does this point change the fact that these actions meet the definition of genocide?
Is this your way of asking for a source?
You're doing your best imitation of a Redditor wringing your hands and using debatebro terms and being as edgy as possible, you ignore anything that I have said which is inconvenient to your argument, and you throw a whole bunch of stuff at me that you expect me to answer while you dodge any questions that I ask you.
If you can't find it in you to have an actual discussion then, as I said before, take your own advice and fuck right off.
There is no discussion to be had, you're wrong. You're not the target of dishonest argumentation, you're just arguing something stupid, badly. I have not retreated from anything, I have called you an idiot and wrong, and I stand by that because you are.