• furryanarchy [comrade/them,they/them]
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    3 years ago

    That why we chip away with a thousand smaller organizations that loosely work together. It's less efficient, but makes it much more difficult to infiltrate and disable them.

    • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I think the black panthers would count as a "smaller" regional org, and we all know what the feds did to them. I just don't see any vanguard party or parties situation working from within the panopticon.

        • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Unfortunately I don't think the security apparatus has any plans on weakening their grip, regardless of what the people think. State security forces have been used in combat against striking union workers in the past and I have no doubt that option will still be on the table for as long as I live.

            • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              One thing is for sure, people on the left are a bit more prudent about opsec and I hope more skeptical of people suggesting doing adventurism, but the recent triumphs of state secret police (the governor kidnapping farce, pretty sure jan 6th) suggest they're still on their bullshit. Even the Austin Red Guard are a pretty good example - everybody on the left seems to be on the same page about them being feds but libs and right wingers fully believe they're genuine leftists doing stupid things.

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Feds just need to start one good argument and the group is disbanded.

        It's true, I've seen it happen. Big groups on the other hand tend to be really bad at holding leadership or even membership accountable and changing in the face of criticism.

        Both are neccessary at different times