Now that I’ve caught you with the clickbait title,

Basically every post has included some form of toxic self-hate, minus one or two mentioning exercise. While I do like being able to confront these in the first place, the purported goals and name of this community gives people who are giving the exact wrong advice far too much credibility, and the last thing these people need is a comment with the most upbears regurgitating individualistic self-help concepts at them.

If we’re going to keep this sort of community around, I suggest doing some serious research and basing it off of DBT, and integrating serious critiques of CBT style mental healthcare and improvement.

I am just some random nerd who is terrible at self-improvement at general, so I understand taking this with some serious doubt. But I just had to get this off my chest.

Thank you, WithoutFurtherBelay

  • Mokey [none/use name]
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    6 months ago

    Willfully deluding yourself is a power tool to have, you can't do anything worthwhile without a degree of illogical faith. That's what faith is, not the religious kind but the human experience kind. It's not a magic bullet that makes your life better, it's a useful tool to have.

    If you're so impossibly fucked and you know you're going to shit on any and all response then why post here? To take it out on everyone else? Why is that fair to the rest of us?

    It doesn't sound like youre really trying to constructively cope with the worst experience a person could have.

    yeah dog i'll just willfully delude myself into being a functioning neurotypical person, that's definitely reasonable, effective, and physically possible and not the kind of crap that would get you cal-

    🙄

    • JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]
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      6 months ago

      Willfully deluding yourself is a power tool to have, you can't do anything worthwhile without a degree of illogical faith. That's what faith is, not the religious kind but the human experience kind. It's not a magic bullet that makes your life better, it's a useful tool to have.

      have you heard of materialism? you should try applying it.

      • Mokey [none/use name]
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        6 months ago

        I'm not telling you to base your entire worldview on faith. It's just to have some in your life. The Maoist/Vietnamese/ anyone with a revolutionary spirit had to have some amount of hope that what they were doing to liberate themselves from the imperialists was going to work.

        You lack that. It's not hard to get, you can have it too.

        • JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]
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          6 months ago

          revolutionaries had/have reason to hope. they had the support of a population. they had an adversary that could effectively be remedied with incredible violence. I can't murder some capitalists my way out of isolation, burnout, treatment resistant depression, undiagnosed who knows what, and having nothing but slowly dying to look forward to.

          personal problems are not at all like societal problems. you're like the rubes who think a nation-state needs to balance its budget like a household.

          It's not hard to get,

          fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck ooooooooofffffffffffffffffffffffffff

            • JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]
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              6 months ago

              protecting other people from bootstraps mentality brainworms, shoe slogans, "tough love", and "the power of positive thinking" bullshit seems necessary and worthwhile

              • Mokey [none/use name]
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                6 months ago

                Maybe its helpful to some people, i got a lot of mileage out of some things especially the last one. I remind you that you dont know me or my life

                • JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]
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                  6 months ago

                  then you got lucky with some incredibly harmful snakeoil. that doesn't make it real and it doesn't make it okay to spread Norman Vincent Peale's bullshit ideology