Any good books on the subject?
I recently saw some Van Gogh paintings and people really love/talk a lot about them, but it seems to me to be a bunch of white people just doing white people stuff.
Look at the wikipedia page for The Starry Night
Lots of words about what he meant and his mental state at the time, even tho he himself didn't talk much about it and sent it off with 9 other paintings.
Was it common for painters to support themselves with their art at the time? Is it common in history to have such a class of people? What sort of people brought the paintings? What did they think of them? What were the paintings made from? Where were those materials from and how where they made? Were painters considered "Artist" at the time, or more of a technical crafts man, like a black smith. How much money did they make? When did people decorating themselves and their environments turn in to "Art" for white people? Etc etc.
Those sorts of questions and answers are much, much more interesting to me than the mental state of some dude.
Maybe I'm just discribing an Art History book, but don't know enough to know what I don't know.
edit: also, dude cuts off his ear and then stays in a two story hospital room for a year that catered to the rich? I thought the dude was poor?
Yeah, its the same thing that happened in the fossil record. Even today, the majority of living things don't have bones, and even if they do, the most of the animal is soft tissue and lost to history. I imagine that there was lots of really, really cool art/music that simply is lost to history for forever. I'm reading The Dawn of Everything and turns out that humans have been dope for a long time, but 99% is lost to history because they didn't have written records (that we know of/survived to the modern day).
Great quote on this from the 14th century scholar Ibn Khaldun:
“In a way [my undertaking] is an entirely original science. In fact, I have not come across a discussion along these lines anywhere. I do not know if this is because people have been unaware of it...[but] perhaps [people] have written exhaustively on this topic, and their work did not reach us... The knowledge that has not come down to us is, after all, larger than the knowledge that has. Where are the sciences of the Persians...the Chaldaeans, the Syrians, the Babylonians...the Copts and their predecessors? The sciences of only one people, the Greeks, have come down to us...as for the sciences of others, nothing remains.”
Or so David Graeber would have you think lol. I loved that book. Will probably read a second time.
Yeah, impossible to know.
But he makes a pretty convincing argument, if you assume humans be dope.
For those that don't know, this is the kind of thing he is talking about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_Point
A giant monument that seems to have been built for religious activities. Hard to imaginge that there wasn't cool music and art going on at the same time. Considering the construction would have required many generations and planning between hundreds of people, all without evidence of any centralized power structure.