I don't really like glocks, got my eyes on a Sig P239 Enhanced Elite 9mm, but also kinda like the Berettas for not being a burgerland company, any other brands I should be looking at, whats the least chuddiest company, I looked at the HK site and my god, they have American flags everywhere and MAGA sales.

ETA: Im in 'Commiefornia' so any gun suggestions should be able to be sold here.

  • Wakmrow [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    I don't actually disagree with most of your analysis. A good gun is actually far better, imo, to having a generic shitty one. I hate my glock, I like my beretta much better, it fits better, the trigger is better, the iron sights are better etc. But my recommendation for a first gun is to get one that covers as many scenarios as possible while adequately serving the purpose of the user. And I bought my beretta first, I'm trying to give advice that I learned from not buying a glock first. As an example, I still cannot find standard magazines for my beretta px4 storm in a gun store (or at a gun show). I have to order them. So my recommendation for someone new is to not worry about being able to find parts/ammo/whatever for your first pistol.

    People in vulnerable communities might be more concerned with SHTF situations. I'm not trying to dismiss your argument here. I'm trying to say that some people might think they may have to scavenge magazines from trucks with certain stickers on them in the very near future. I could give many examples. I don't think I have to, I've seen you posting.

    I think if you're worried about using guns on a person, your first two should be a glock in 9mm and an AR in 556.

    All this is my opinion but I do think its worth discussing. No animosity here.

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      11 months ago

      Same here. I just dislike Glocks, not because it’s unreliable, but because it’s overpriced for what it offers. If they dropped the price down then I’d be recommending it to everyone as well

      • Wakmrow [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        I agree, but to be clear, I bought 3 handguns in California and all of them cost ~500 (back in the late 2010s). Including the glock.

        Since then, as I've moved around to different states a bit, I have been able to easily find glock magazines that California disallows. I haven't been able to find magazines in any of 4 states 2 of which are very "2a friendly" for the other pistols. Not that I bought them. I am a law abiding citizen that respects the rule of law, officer. Did you know that there are crazy law breaking assholes who make 50 round drum magazines for glocks? I'd report them to the proper authorities but I only saw those shenanigans on a walmart table at a gun show, I don't think I even remember where the show was.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        11 months ago

        Word. It's silly to say about glocks but everything about glocks that isn't the actual function of the gun sucks.