Horse and whale are both exotic meats. Both cross the line into "gross" and possibly "cruel". And canned, like it's something you could find on the shelf at the grocery store.
Both cross the line into “gross” and possibly “cruel”.
Smh this is why people need at least a bit of vegan theory. Every kind of meat is cruel and if you disagree you don't suddenly get to pick up that line again when it comes to horses, dogs, or whatever you happen to find cute.
I'm not a vegan and love hamburgers and steaks. I like to think humans are true omnivores who can eat everything. I've had scorpion on a stick and one of my claims to fame is having eaten more species than 95% of the humans on this planet. Granted, most of it was from obscure seafood but it still counts. I also eat obscure vegetables if that helps. Because omnivore.
Well it's clear you have no problem with animal cruelty for food then, so perhaps you should examine why you find "exotic meats" such as horse to involve some exceptional amount of it. This was my point - the most barebones vegan analysis can reveal some interesting parallel prejudices.
If it was at all possible I would raise, slaughter and butcher my own meat. I looked into it; but it just wasn't feasible as I live in a city. Trust me, I tried. I hunt whenever it's possible, which is not often.
I grew up on a farm that raised its own meat. You'll have a fun time trying to sell me on it.
But I don't really care - it doesn't really matter to you what I think of your diet. The point about parallel prejudices is one that deserves hammering down, and the reason that I'm leaving this comment is to point out to anyone else how interesting it is that you've chosen to ignore it but still taken the time to respond and defend what you eat, twice, when that wasn't even what the conversation was about.
Horse is only considered an "exotic" meat in America and a handful of European countries. It is a common, everyday food item in most of the world, no different from beef, pork, or chicken. The arguments that it's cruel are either based on "noooo but the pretty horsies! So magestic and free!" or are just the exact same extremely valid arguments against all of animal agriculture and apply just the same to every other piece of meat any American has eaten in their life.
Really? I'm pretty well traveled and can't seem to remember finding it on menus often. And I specialize in eating like the locals in the little restaurants. Even if you can find horse, it's an exotic meat and more expensive. And I've seen dog on menus before. (it was 4x the price of the same pork dish)
It's generally considered a bit of a luxury item everywhere, but I've had more than a few really good horse tacos in Mexico, and Ikea meatballs for a while had some horse meat in most of the world until some of the "nooooo but the horsies are so magestic!" Activists got mad about it in Europe
It's also very commonly added to ground beef and other beef products around the world, but that is usually not food-grade horse, so I would argue that's probably not great, but I think the repeated arguments from people that the horsemeat trade must be ended at all costs, by force if necessary are insane.
The main issues are labeling and the use of food-unsafe drugs in animals
and Ikea meatballs for a while had some horse meat in most of the world
Those were also very good at that time and absolute garbage after they stopped. They may have changed the recipe further, but the time periods do line up.
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Horse and whale are both exotic meats. Both cross the line into "gross" and possibly "cruel". And canned, like it's something you could find on the shelf at the grocery store.
Not everything has to be about Americans.
Smh this is why people need at least a bit of vegan theory. Every kind of meat is cruel and if you disagree you don't suddenly get to pick up that line again when it comes to horses, dogs, or whatever you happen to find cute.
I'm not a vegan and love hamburgers and steaks. I like to think humans are true omnivores who can eat everything. I've had scorpion on a stick and one of my claims to fame is having eaten more species than 95% of the humans on this planet. Granted, most of it was from obscure seafood but it still counts. I also eat obscure vegetables if that helps. Because omnivore.
Well it's clear you have no problem with animal cruelty for food then, so perhaps you should examine why you find "exotic meats" such as horse to involve some exceptional amount of it. This was my point - the most barebones vegan analysis can reveal some interesting parallel prejudices.
If it was at all possible I would raise, slaughter and butcher my own meat. I looked into it; but it just wasn't feasible as I live in a city. Trust me, I tried. I hunt whenever it's possible, which is not often.
If you give them a big hug before you cut their throat, it makes it okay.
I grew up on a farm that raised its own meat. You'll have a fun time trying to sell me on it.
But I don't really care - it doesn't really matter to you what I think of your diet. The point about parallel prejudices is one that deserves hammering down, and the reason that I'm leaving this comment is to point out to anyone else how interesting it is that you've chosen to ignore it but still taken the time to respond and defend what you eat, twice, when that wasn't even what the conversation was about.
Horse is only considered an "exotic" meat in America and a handful of European countries. It is a common, everyday food item in most of the world, no different from beef, pork, or chicken. The arguments that it's cruel are either based on "noooo but the pretty horsies! So magestic and free!" or are just the exact same extremely valid arguments against all of animal agriculture and apply just the same to every other piece of meat any American has eaten in their life.
Really? I'm pretty well traveled and can't seem to remember finding it on menus often. And I specialize in eating like the locals in the little restaurants. Even if you can find horse, it's an exotic meat and more expensive. And I've seen dog on menus before. (it was 4x the price of the same pork dish)
It's generally considered a bit of a luxury item everywhere, but I've had more than a few really good horse tacos in Mexico, and Ikea meatballs for a while had some horse meat in most of the world until some of the "nooooo but the horsies are so magestic!" Activists got mad about it in Europe
It's also very commonly added to ground beef and other beef products around the world, but that is usually not food-grade horse, so I would argue that's probably not great, but I think the repeated arguments from people that the horsemeat trade must be ended at all costs, by force if necessary are insane.
The main issues are labeling and the use of food-unsafe drugs in animals
Those were also very good at that time and absolute garbage after they stopped. They may have changed the recipe further, but the time periods do line up.