• Kanna [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    "Whales are an endangered species, better not kill them"

    looks at a horse :side-eye-1: :side-eye-2:

    • CommCat [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      isn't it still a big controversy that Japan is still killing whales for food, but they hide it by saying it's for scientific research.

      • Duckduck [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Eating horse is not against Japanese values? I remember once perusing a menu, and having recently learned the character for "horse", spotted it on the menu and called it out to my dining companion. It was horse sashimi and she eagerly ordered it. I just thought it was strange and was keen to show off I wasn't illiterate any more, I didn't mean for her to actually order it. But she insisted it was great. The dish arrived and I tried a piece. Off taste and rather gummy, I thought. She devoured the rest. It was an uncommon menu item, I'll give it that.

    • Duckduck [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Horse and whale are both exotic meats. Both cross the line into "gross" and possibly "cruel". And canned, like it's something you could find on the shelf at the grocery store.

      Not everything has to be about Americans.

      • CptKrkIsClmbngThMntn [any]
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        3 years ago

        Both cross the line into “gross” and possibly “cruel”.

        Smh this is why people need at least a bit of vegan theory. Every kind of meat is cruel and if you disagree you don't suddenly get to pick up that line again when it comes to horses, dogs, or whatever you happen to find cute.

        • Duckduck [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          I'm not a vegan and love hamburgers and steaks. I like to think humans are true omnivores who can eat everything. I've had scorpion on a stick and one of my claims to fame is having eaten more species than 95% of the humans on this planet. Granted, most of it was from obscure seafood but it still counts. I also eat obscure vegetables if that helps. Because omnivore.

          • CptKrkIsClmbngThMntn [any]
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            3 years ago

            Well it's clear you have no problem with animal cruelty for food then, so perhaps you should examine why you find "exotic meats" such as horse to involve some exceptional amount of it. This was my point - the most barebones vegan analysis can reveal some interesting parallel prejudices.

            • Duckduck [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              If it was at all possible I would raise, slaughter and butcher my own meat. I looked into it; but it just wasn't feasible as I live in a city. Trust me, I tried. I hunt whenever it's possible, which is not often.

              • CptKrkIsClmbngThMntn [any]
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                3 years ago

                I grew up on a farm that raised its own meat. You'll have a fun time trying to sell me on it.

                But I don't really care - it doesn't really matter to you what I think of your diet. The point about parallel prejudices is one that deserves hammering down, and the reason that I'm leaving this comment is to point out to anyone else how interesting it is that you've chosen to ignore it but still taken the time to respond and defend what you eat, twice, when that wasn't even what the conversation was about.

      • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Horse is only considered an "exotic" meat in America and a handful of European countries. It is a common, everyday food item in most of the world, no different from beef, pork, or chicken. The arguments that it's cruel are either based on "noooo but the pretty horsies! So magestic and free!" or are just the exact same extremely valid arguments against all of animal agriculture and apply just the same to every other piece of meat any American has eaten in their life.

        • Duckduck [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Really? I'm pretty well traveled and can't seem to remember finding it on menus often. And I specialize in eating like the locals in the little restaurants. Even if you can find horse, it's an exotic meat and more expensive. And I've seen dog on menus before. (it was 4x the price of the same pork dish)

          • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            It's generally considered a bit of a luxury item everywhere, but I've had more than a few really good horse tacos in Mexico, and Ikea meatballs for a while had some horse meat in most of the world until some of the "nooooo but the horsies are so magestic!" Activists got mad about it in Europe

            It's also very commonly added to ground beef and other beef products around the world, but that is usually not food-grade horse, so I would argue that's probably not great, but I think the repeated arguments from people that the horsemeat trade must be ended at all costs, by force if necessary are insane.

            The main issues are labeling and the use of food-unsafe drugs in animals

            • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              and Ikea meatballs for a while had some horse meat in most of the world

              Those were also very good at that time and absolute garbage after they stopped. They may have changed the recipe further, but the time periods do line up.

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    1 year ago

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  • Stalin [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    We didn't reach them before the yankee imperialists. For that I am sorry.

    • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      The Westosphere is pretty much the only place that horse isn't a perfectly normal meat, just in the store next to the pork and chicken.

    • CptKrkIsClmbngThMntn [any]
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      3 years ago

      I know there was one about unicorn meat that just had a little stuffed unicorn inside it.

      An old friend of mine used to use one of those cans for her weed stash.

  • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Only thing off about this is... Whale flavoring.

    Unless meat being flavored by different species is a thing and I'm just living peacefully under my boulder.

    • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Different meats taste different, they don't all taste the same, so adding flavouring of an expensive and hard to find meat to one that is inexpensive and readily available makes sense.

      This is why some people swear by the concept of frying chicken in beef tallow, is also why Schmaltz has gotten more popular outside of the Jewish community, and why people use animal fats when cooking in general.