What exactly is the difference between them? If I were to draw a Venn diagram, I could probably think of some contrasts. I don’t know if most conservatives really care about segregation at this point. I don’t know if conservatives are down for a genocide (though I have my suspicions). The main thing that they have in common is anything BLM or black crime related. Talk to any regular conservative about those things and they’ll turn into Derek from American History X. This is because at their core, they think the law should apply to everyone but them. They don’t care if White people get away with crimes against POC, but think POC should be executed for shoplifting.

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Conservatives know how to be slippery and use certain language in certain contexts, or actually most of them are fooled by their own rhetoric about freedom and individual rights etc. Neo Nazis have lost the plot and don't believe they have any electoral means of gaining power or they don't believe in the neoliberal methods of enacting racist oppression because it's not direct and widespread enough for their liking.

    Without fail, every single conservative person I've ever met holds 3 things in common as their core ideology. Hatred of the poor, rascism, and a confused white supremacist understanding of American history. Almost all of them hide those things from even themselves to the point where ideological expression is more like a game. It's sports because materially speaking most of them have already won. They sit atop a pile of corpses from the global south and usually maintain white supremacist cultural dominance at home.

    A Neo Nazi however does not tolerate essentially winning, they want their victory to be more straightforward. They want the symbols and the songs and people murdered through direct violence. They find the deaths caused by poverty and negligence distasteful or too slow.

    There's some hope here though. Because it's only a game to most conservatives, the working class ones are actually pretty amenable to working class policy a lot of the time. They want higher wages and more affordable healthcare. The capitalist conservatives are actual parasitic vampires gleefully chuckling it up as they extract value and enjoy their position on the top.

    The neonazis though have soaked up too much internet nonsense and have driven themselves batty through memes and insular communities. They're a little like our shadow a lot of the time. Often social outcasts or they faced poverty themselves. Maybe they were complete nerds in school and escaped by reading Evola or some other fascist fuck. They're largely cosplayers but the smarter ones know how to use the conservative language to slip right in. That's part of why I don't believe they're too different ideologically.

    Like Miller, Bannon, and Gorka were part of the Trump admin, which was supposedly conservative and not nazis, yet those three are 100% dyed in the wool bloodthirsty fascists. Fit right in.

    Yeah so all in all I don't think much separates conservatives and modern fascists other than terms they use and what they believe about themselves. The fascists tend to be more nerdy or insane. It's an aesthetic difference.

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Conservatives are just the OG state of false consciousness. They actually believe in bourgeois individualism and freedom. They think it works, and to a lot of them it appears that way because they lead moderately comfortable (but usually incredibly alienated) lives.

      It's fun to start describing the base tenants of communism to your conservative family members and watch them just full throatedly agree with everything until you use the word "proletariat" or something and they immediately start screaming that you tricked them lol. The things they proclaim to believe are what we actually believe, the difference is that most conservatives find their community in the church, and the church is a wholly bourgeois institution incapable of revolutionary movement (in America at least).