I feel :jokerfied: when any criticism of such cheap sensationalist "prestige" gimmicks gets a defensive fandom response like "not everything has to be a morality play" as if there's no other way to tell a story other than the camera focusing on Icheb getting his eye ripped out of his head.
I remember when Man of Steel came out and a lot of the criticism around that was the senseless destruction in the last part of the movie.
It was almost always met with the response "well, that's what would happen if two superheroes fought in real life" which I always thought was strange. Art is not real life. It never can be real. At its closest, it is an interpretation of reality through whatever mechanism you use. Hundreds of people all collaborated to show 9/11 times a thousand happen on-screen with the colour palette grimmer than Schindler's List.
You can say "sometimes people die violently in real life" and okay? But it was someone's artistic choice to portray that. It didn't just happen, the person making the art chose to portray torture, murder, rape etc.
If you're going to show something like that, then you have to accept the incredible weight that comes with those actions. If your character dies violently on-screen it better be for a better reason than "gotta give Seven of Nine something to do, like revenge or something idk".
I hated that Nolan take that Superman would "realistically" be feared and hated.
He was projecting his own Randian nonsense onto the general population.
One of the basic foundational things about Superman was that he was supposed to be INSPIRATIONAL. People literally looked up, cheered, were thrilled by his feats.
I feel :jokerfied: when any criticism of such cheap sensationalist "prestige" gimmicks gets a defensive fandom response like "not everything has to be a morality play" as if there's no other way to tell a story other than the camera focusing on Icheb getting his eye ripped out of his head.
I remember when Man of Steel came out and a lot of the criticism around that was the senseless destruction in the last part of the movie.
It was almost always met with the response "well, that's what would happen if two superheroes fought in real life" which I always thought was strange. Art is not real life. It never can be real. At its closest, it is an interpretation of reality through whatever mechanism you use. Hundreds of people all collaborated to show 9/11 times a thousand happen on-screen with the colour palette grimmer than Schindler's List.
You can say "sometimes people die violently in real life" and okay? But it was someone's artistic choice to portray that. It didn't just happen, the person making the art chose to portray torture, murder, rape etc.
If you're going to show something like that, then you have to accept the incredible weight that comes with those actions. If your character dies violently on-screen it better be for a better reason than "gotta give Seven of Nine something to do, like revenge or something idk".
I hated that Nolan take that Superman would "realistically" be feared and hated.
He was projecting his own Randian nonsense onto the general population.
One of the basic foundational things about Superman was that he was supposed to be INSPIRATIONAL. People literally looked up, cheered, were thrilled by his feats.
Fuck Nolan.
Nolan was just a producer. Snyder was the director.
But he definitely had an influence, especially after his "realistic" Dark Knight trilogy.