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        mayos do this a lot with all cuisines, actually their own more than anyone else's.

        It's like there's some magical "essence" that makes something "coq au vin" when it's actually literally just another version of chicken stew

        There's also a massive tendency to think of ingredients as being European just because euros are one of the races that use them, whereas to be an "ethnic" ingredient it has to be absent from euro cuisine. Perfect example is thyme/rosemary/dill/any other herb that is native to Central Asia/Mediterranean (there are basically zero culinary herbs or spices that are exclusively native to Europe)

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            and yea wine snobs are cancer. I'm kind of a food enthusiast though, and I make a big deal about selecting really ripe fruit when possible, but I've never understood this ridiculous obsession with gatekeeping something as calorically pointless as wine/coffee/beer/alcohol.

            I could at least understand it if it was about actual foods, but for some reason they're less concerned about that stuff lol

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                In a way I actually feel more guilty, because my tastes are something that are probably more resource-intensive.

                Meaning that it's definitely harder to produce a perfectly ripened apple, than it is to make a two-bit story about "muh special hickory-mahogany smoked wood casket" and sell it to brainwormers

                I've found that East Asian people care more about food quality in general. Those boxed fruits they sell at Korean/Chinese stores are often (not always) much higher quality than the stuff at the grocery store, while being the same price (the catch being that you have to buy the entire box)

                The best apples I've ever had were from one of these boxes, they were grown in Shandong

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                    well, I'm not a vegan, but I also don't eat that much meat, particularly red meat

                    https://ensia.com/notable/which-diet-makes-best-use-of-farmland-you-might-be-surprised/

                    However, according to this estimate, a "low meat" omnivorous diet actually feeds more people than a universal vegan diet. Which makes intuitive sense because animals are part of pretty much every traditional farm system, just in much lower amounts than what average Americans eat.

                    As for how much lower, this study says that the vegan diet fed fewer people than both vegetarian diets and the lowest two of the omni diets. So it looks like getting everyone to eat 1/3 the amount of meat of the average American is a pretty optimal spot, at least according to this study

                    Of course all the ethical reasons for veganism remain intact and cannot ever be reconciled with an omnivore diet, unless lab grown meat ever came to fruition

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            I heard some white guy badmouthing Vietnamese cuisine, some girl said she was gonna order pho, and he basically concerned trolled her "what makes it pho?" "yea, but what makes it different from anything else?" :le-pol-face:

            polcel, what makes it pizza? It's just cheese on tomato on bread--a Middle Eastern dairy solid on top of a Native American plant on top of a Middle Eastern grain. Even the BASIL isn't native to Europe, it's just a recently bred strain of an Indian plant, fuck off.

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