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  • Abraxiel
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    3 years ago

    I casually disregard "food ethnicity" and make all my meals a delicious melange of southwest, middle eastern, and north african spices and whatever vegetables and protein I feel like. Mostly it is small pieces of solid food in a fragrant sauce. Slop, if you will.

  • Orcocracy [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    "Authenticity" is and always has been about commodification and marketability and not about accurate representation of a society or culture. Fancy leather bags from expensive luxury brands come with certificates proclaiming their authenticity, but home cooked meals made by your grandparents do not.

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I tried to do a thought experiment about what it’d be like if :lmayo: cultural cuisine was done the same way, with one or two ingredients exaggerated in importance and eclipsing the rest of the experience

    We already do that. Mayo food is on an arms race to increase sugar and salt until thats all you can taste.

  • becauseoftheblood [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    It's probably because Americans eat like a parody of Americans already they don't realize other cultures cuisines aren't like that

  • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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    3 years ago

    I tried to do a thought experiment about what it’d be like if cultural cuisine was done the same way, with one or

    the burger that was posted earlier or yesterday or whenever it was lol

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  • LoudMuffin [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    tacos de chapulin para la poblacion de Montana

    sabor autentico estilo Oaxaqueño

    spoiler

    pero le ponen mayonesa

    • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Radlibs de PMC en Helena: "¡Podemos cultivar el bistec en cubas! ¡No me hagas comer el taco de bichos!"

  • discontinuuity [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I've been watching this Mexican abuela's cooking show on youtube, and I realized a while ago that lots of the stuff she cooks isn't all that different from the dishes that my midwestern grandma makes, just with more chilis. I don't know if her cooking is "authentic," but it looks tasty, and the few recipes I've tried myself were damn good comfort food. Not haute cuisine by any stretch, just what ordinary people make to feed their families.

    "Authentic" cuisine is like the "good old days" that conservatives imagine: it probably never existed in a "pure" form.

  • kristina [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    authentic mexican food is trying to find the most run down looking place in town. non-booj restaurants are the best, period

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      • kristina [she/her]
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        there was this one place that would get like 2 star reviews cause all the whiteys would be like 'omg theres a crack in the tile near the entrance and the place smells permanently of chilis and there are so many poor brown people in it' but it was fucking awesome. im sad it shut down, they had a to die for all you can eat menu. we were on first name basis with the guy and he was just like 'made enough money to retire and none of the kids wanted it' lol. so we're happy for him, glad he got his

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          • kristina [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            he did retire, but yeah, no one in his family wanted to continue it. seemed like a family operation and they were all burnt out

  • Owl [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I hate that there are a dozen different ways white American food might be good, but as soon as you leave that bubble, the only way any other cuisine is allowed to be good is to be more "authentic." Because the Other can only have monolithic traditions, never tastes and opinions as individuals, or weird family recipes that are different from their neighbors back home.

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      • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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        mayos do this a lot with all cuisines, actually their own more than anyone else's.

        It's like there's some magical "essence" that makes something "coq au vin" when it's actually literally just another version of chicken stew

        There's also a massive tendency to think of ingredients as being European just because euros are one of the races that use them, whereas to be an "ethnic" ingredient it has to be absent from euro cuisine. Perfect example is thyme/rosemary/dill/any other herb that is native to Central Asia/Mediterranean (there are basically zero culinary herbs or spices that are exclusively native to Europe)

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          • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            and yea wine snobs are cancer. I'm kind of a food enthusiast though, and I make a big deal about selecting really ripe fruit when possible, but I've never understood this ridiculous obsession with gatekeeping something as calorically pointless as wine/coffee/beer/alcohol.

            I could at least understand it if it was about actual foods, but for some reason they're less concerned about that stuff lol

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              • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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                3 years ago

                In a way I actually feel more guilty, because my tastes are something that are probably more resource-intensive.

                Meaning that it's definitely harder to produce a perfectly ripened apple, than it is to make a two-bit story about "muh special hickory-mahogany smoked wood casket" and sell it to brainwormers

                I've found that East Asian people care more about food quality in general. Those boxed fruits they sell at Korean/Chinese stores are often (not always) much higher quality than the stuff at the grocery store, while being the same price (the catch being that you have to buy the entire box)

                The best apples I've ever had were from one of these boxes, they were grown in Shandong

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                  • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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                    well, I'm not a vegan, but I also don't eat that much meat, particularly red meat

                    https://ensia.com/notable/which-diet-makes-best-use-of-farmland-you-might-be-surprised/

                    However, according to this estimate, a "low meat" omnivorous diet actually feeds more people than a universal vegan diet. Which makes intuitive sense because animals are part of pretty much every traditional farm system, just in much lower amounts than what average Americans eat.

                    As for how much lower, this study says that the vegan diet fed fewer people than both vegetarian diets and the lowest two of the omni diets. So it looks like getting everyone to eat 1/3 the amount of meat of the average American is a pretty optimal spot, at least according to this study

                    Of course all the ethical reasons for veganism remain intact and cannot ever be reconciled with an omnivore diet, unless lab grown meat ever came to fruition

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            3 years ago

            I heard some white guy badmouthing Vietnamese cuisine, some girl said she was gonna order pho, and he basically concerned trolled her "what makes it pho?" "yea, but what makes it different from anything else?" :le-pol-face:

            polcel, what makes it pizza? It's just cheese on tomato on bread--a Middle Eastern dairy solid on top of a Native American plant on top of a Middle Eastern grain. Even the BASIL isn't native to Europe, it's just a recently bred strain of an Indian plant, fuck off.

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  • spectre [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I'm not sure where sushi burritos fit into this, but they make me big mad (dumb thing to get mad about, but still wtf)