some real great takes here bootlicker

I was brought up in a household that was anti military.

Only as an adult was I able to form my own opinion.

Without a strong military in the past we would certainly not be here today and without a strong military now, who knows what other nation might decide to attack our sovereignty.

It's childish to be anti military - it shows you do not understand the interconnectedness of our society - good and bad.

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It's disingenuous to ignore the effect the aggression of the cold war and its aftermath had on the current Russian situation.

Bro, I don't know what warped version of reality you live in, but without a strong American military to stand up to the Soviet Union during the Cold War, you'd be speaking Russian right now. Ukraine blew their chance to join NATO as soon as possible like everyone else did when the Cold War ended, and they are now being slaughtered en masse by Russia in their attempts to turn them into their newest southwestern oblast.

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As a liberal raised during the backlash to the Iraq War, my attitude towards the Military Industrial Complex has really changed in the aftermath of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and China’s seemingly inevitable invasion of Taiwan. Add in the possibility that the US could be dragged into new wars in the Middle East and even possibly South America, and I really don’t think we have the luxury to say “weapons bad, let’s not build any”.

Being the policeman of the world absolutely sucks. War absolutely sucks. But one of the best ways to prevent China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela, etc from saying “might make right, let’s take this land and these resources from our neighbors, since no one can stop us” is for the US to say, “no, we will stop you and we have the will and the tools to easily do it.”

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who's responsible for the US choosing to police the world? who-did-this

The US is the most benign empire one could wish for. History makes that plain, and just peeking over the fence at contender's tendencies and track record further reinforces that. Easy moral justification backed by actual moral justification.

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brainworms

in honour of all the defense of us atrocities i present to you: the hacker news logo with the fascist "life rune" symbol:

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maybe we can get that as an emoji in the same vein as reddit-logo

  • TechnoUnionTypeBeat [he/him, they/them]
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    10 months ago

    Without a strong military in the past we would certainly not be here today and without a strong military now, who knows what other nation might decide to attack our sovereignty

    Has the US even had a credible threat to its sovereignty since it's formation? I genuinely cannot think of a war the US was in where it wasn't the aggressor, barring maybe the World Wars but neither one posed a threat to sovereignty

      • neo [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        Red Dawn

        i got to the part in this movie where the old guy in the cabin reveals

        spoiler

        his granddaughters hiding below the floorboards

        and couldn't stop laughing and couldn't continue the movie from there b/c of how stupid it was.

    • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      'Sovereignty' here os being used as a short way to say 'do whatever the fuck we want with zero consequences'.

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      10 months ago

      americans think that if america hadn't entered world war II the nazis would have taken over the world. in fact, if america and russia hadn't entered the war, the US would undoubtably allied with the Nazis. we would have had a domestic holocaust, planned and executed by Americans against communists, jews, blacks, homosexuals, and the disabled.